Season Six Discussion Thread

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:19 pm

Corey, what's GetGray/THX RGB? I just got a new tv and would like to try some calibration programs. The Elite is one heck of a tv!

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:20 pm

Raki wrote:
Freeza Heika wrote:Anyone notice that walmart is still using the Vegeta boxart?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... d=10268697

Thing they're just slow or maybe some indecision over at funi?
Nope, it's just Wal Mart is too lazy to change it. I work for the bastards, so I know personally.

Don't they realise that Dragon Ball is top priority?

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:26 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:
Raki wrote:
Freeza Heika wrote:Anyone notice that walmart is still using the Vegeta boxart?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... d=10268697

Thing they're just slow or maybe some indecision over at funi?
Nope, it's just Wal Mart is too lazy to change it. I work for the bastards, so I know personally.
Don't they realise that Dragon Ball is top priority?

At Wal Mart, Wal Mart is top priority.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:02 pm

Raki wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:
Raki wrote:Nope, it's just Wal Mart is too lazy to change it. I work for the bastards, so I know personally.
Don't they realise that Dragon Ball is top priority?
At Wal Mart, Wal Mart is top priority.

And I'm not even too sure about that...

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:10 pm

BrollysKin wrote:Corey, what's GetGray/THX RGB? I just got a new tv and would like to try some calibration programs. The Elite is one heck of a tv!

GetGray is a DVD that contains calibration patterns for fixed pixel devices. It's got everything you need basically, but you need to know how to use the patterns to make the most of it. I moved to it after I learned how to use pluge patterns and the like.

THX RGB filters are filters that you use with pluge patterns to make sure that your television is putting out the right shades of red, green and blue. By doing this, you assure that you are seeing the colors as intended.

And yeah, I love my television. It's not the latest or best, but I've had it for four years now and it has served me well. Hopefully in a few more years I can upgrade to a 1080p KURO set

Check your PM's, I sent more info.

-Corey

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:32 am

BrollysKin wrote:
Raki wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote: Don't they realise that Dragon Ball is top priority?
At Wal Mart, Wal Mart is top priority.
And I'm not even too sure about that...

Work for them, you'll see.

shenron002 · Post by **shenron002** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:18 pm

watch all my DVD's on a Pioneer Elite PRO-910HD display that has been calibrated using GetGray and THX RGB filters. The DVD player is an Oppo DV-980H, outputting a 480i signal via HDMI to my Denon AVR-3808CI which deinterlaces and upscales it to 720p and goes to the television via HDMI. It's all setup to main OAR also, no noise reduction etc.

-Corey

Awesome setup, Wow you have an OPPO DVD player, I can't find it anywhere in the province of Manitoba, thought I was the only home theater buff here!

I have a 52' LCD Toshiba Regza 60hz, "Samsung" 1080p upconverting DVD player, "Yamaha" 6.1 receiver, and 5.1 surround sound "Energy" Floor-standing speaker system. My next project will be buying a front end projector with an panamorph lens and a 2.40:1 screen for all my OAR needs!

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:38 pm

DBHighDefinition wrote:Another image if anyone wants to compare:

I mainly stuck it in here because of Vegeta's eye colour. It seems more natural than the other images we have seen.

Which episode is this? I'd be happy to post a comparison.

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:17 pm

SSJToreto wrote:
DBHighDefinition wrote:Another image if anyone wants to compare:

I mainly stuck it in here because of Vegeta's eye colour. It seems more natural than the other images we have seen.
Which episode is this? I'd be happy to post a comparison.

I think its 189

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:35 pm

DBHighDefinition wrote:Another image if anyone wants to compare:
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I mainly stuck it in here because of Vegeta's eye colour. It seems more natural than the other images we have seen.

Its as simple as that, then we don't have to scroll past the same image 3 or 4 times.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:02 pm

Dragon Box

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:04 pm

Maybe it's your rip of the DVD (if you even ripped it), but that doesn't look anywhere near as clean as the first image.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:07 pm

Tweaker wrote:Maybe it's your rip of the DVD (if you even ripped it), but that doesn't look anywhere near as clean as the first image.

I took this image straight from the DVD via VLC player...

What do you mean by "clean"? If you're talking about the video grain, then that's always there...

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:20 pm

Why is the resolution on this pic so high? These DVDs are 480P!

Also, SSJToretos screen is fine. That's what it looks like.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:26 pm

I'd actually want to see season six in action... I don't own season six, but whoever does, would be kind enough upload Gohan's 1st transformation in full quality? I could do the same for Dragon Box and we could compare the two.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:35 pm

I think the res is so high because DBHD is the same guy on youtube who upconverts and then rips it.

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:39 pm

SSJToreto wrote:
Tweaker wrote:Maybe it's your rip of the DVD (if you even ripped it), but that doesn't look anywhere near as clean as the first image.
I took this image straight from the DVD via VLC player...

What do you mean by "clean"? If you're talking about the video grain, then that's always there...

Yeah, I was referring to the grain. But, for example, when scaling down the first image posted to the size of the one you posted, it doesn't appear to have any of the same grain; at least not as much of it.

But if your screen is how it's supposed to be, then fair enough, I guess. Why does the first screen look different, though?

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:42 pm

Tweaker wrote:
SSJToreto wrote:
Tweaker wrote:Maybe it's your rip of the DVD (if you even ripped it), but that doesn't look anywhere near as clean as the first image.
I took this image straight from the DVD via VLC player...

What do you mean by "clean"? If you're talking about the video grain, then that's always there...
Yeah, I was referring to the grain. But, for example, when scaling down the first image posted to the size of the one you posted, it doesn't appear to have any of the same grain; at least not as much of it.

But if your screen is how it's supposed to be, then fair enough, I guess. Why does the first screen look different, though?

What first screen are you talking about exactly?

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:43 pm

Tweak, lemme try and explain. FUNi outsourced to a local company in Texas for its remasters, which did a Lowry-ish process through the computer - only, rather than delete the dirt, this automated process ended up removing most of the grain. We call that DVNR.

Whereas in Japan, their masters were first-generation - thus, the degeneration found in funimation's was less. Then, TOEi - going through a company called Pony Canyon - carried out a full frame-by-frame remaster, rather than just an automated process.

Oh yeah, and the aspect ratio is different; but that's another story.

PrincessVegeta · Post by **PrincessVegeta** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:50 pm

ect5150 wrote:

Why is the resolution on this pic so high? These DVDs are 480P!

Also, SSJToretos screen is fine. That's what it looks like.

No offence guys but I have to agree with ect5150 here since Season 6's brightness in this boxset was turned way down, and in some scenes there even seems to be a blue tint to it "Most noticable when the Cell JRs appeared. It's almost like I see a patten in this which goes...

Season 1: Over contrasted

Season 2: Over contrasted

Season 3: Very close to what Dragonbox looks like as said by many here and me seeing it for myself aswell.

Season 4: Over contrasted

Season 5: Over contrasted

Season 6: Under contrasted as in looking far too dark *almost has the same issue as what the Pokemon Heroes DVD suffered from*

And finally:

THIS

looks way better than:

THIS

I mean like how can anyone say the colours look right when you've got super saiyans having blue eyes instead of green

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