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It wasn't focused on at all, not only because it wasn't Toriyama's thing, but because it wasn't Goku's thing. There's nothing to suggest that he fell "in love", we see that Goku cares for Chi-Chi in his own way, but it's clear throughout the series that Goku isn't capable of the romantic kind of love you're talking about.SSj Kaboom wrote:Goku and Chi-Chi still had a romance and were in love with each other. It was just never deeply delved into or focused on
We also don't see a romance between Bardock and Selypa, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen!, she's Goku's mother!!SSj Kaboom wrote:Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
We never saw Selypa clinging to Bardock or making any other kind of romantic advance, ultimately resulting in a kid. Goku had to have returned the feelings eventually. Just because he's got other priorities doesn't mean he's stupid, or some kind of emotionless training-robot.Captain Awesome wrote:We also don't see a romance between Bardock and Selypa, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen!, she's Goku's mother!!
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I agree, but not to the extent that Chi-Chi cares for him, he's just not wired that way. I have the same problem with this movie as I do with the FUNimation dub, they're trying to shoehorn some romance in despite it being out of character, the relationship between Goku and Chi-Chi would have been cultivated over years, it wasn't a case of chemistry or love at first sight, it was Chi-Chi's persistence.SSj Kaboom wrote: We never saw Selypa clinging to Bardock or making any other kind of romantic advance, ultimately resulting in a kid. Goku had to have returned the feelings eventually.
FUNimation dub wrote: "My head doesn't know what my mouth is saying..but my heart does."
Yeah, that line was pretty corny and out of place, no matter how "cute" it was.Captain Awesome wrote:FUNimation dub wrote: "My head doesn't know what my mouth is saying..but my heart does."
Well, at least we partially agree. Like I've said, we know for the majority of the film, Goku IS completely clueless to Chi-Chi's feelings, and she likely does have to work at it to get it requited. Odds are that kiss is towards the finale of the movie, whenever Goku finally "gets it" and decides to return the favor. It'd only be really badly out of place if they were macking from the get-go.
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Agreed.SSj Kaboom wrote: Well, at least we partially agree. Like I've said, we know for the majority of the film, Goku IS completely clueless to Chi-Chi's feelings, and she likely does have to work at it to get it requited. Odds are that kiss is towards the finale of the movie, whenever Goku finally "gets it" and decides to return the favor. It'd only be really badly out of place if they were macking from the get-go.
If it plays out somewhat like that I'll be a little happier.
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I seriously just want to know, I hadn't heard that was definitely how it'd be. If it's really so one-sided, it wouldn't be so bad.Onikage725 wrote:I thought Chatwin said in an interview that was basically how it was going to happen. And, offscreen or no, does anyone really think that Goku never kissed Chi Chi?
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I think it was either him or Chung that said that in an interview.Onikage725 said: I thought Chatwin said in an interview that was basically how it was going to happen.
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Is that an actual FUNi dub quote? Cause I totally don’t remember that one. Ugh, fucking gag me with a spoon.Captain Awesome wrote:FUNimation dub wrote: "My head doesn't know what my mouth is saying..but my heart does."
I think I might've brought up this point before in one of the other live action movie threads, but I don’t get how some folks can get so up in arms about this movie being unfaithful to its source material when considering that the dub and the overall FUNimation marketing has been thoroughly ass raping this franchise stateside for WAAAAAAAAY longer. This movie feels almost inconsequential to me at this point.
I’m not saying that someone can’t be a dub fan and also still hate this movie… I’m just saying that it makes people who are dub fans complaining about the movie being an unfaithful adaptation seem fairly hypocritical considering some of the unbelievable bullshit that some of the same people will bend over backwards to defend in the dub.
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I think you're all underestimating the romantic involvement of Goku and Chichi. I mean, there's definitely a lot of family love there, I see it especially during the Saiyan saga, and there is a lot in there that connects them as compatible people.
Goku's a lovable, airheaded jungle boy. Okay. But he also is one of the most loving and caring characters, although a bit oblivious and selfish. Still, in times of peace, when he doesn't have fighting to distract him...
...he obviously got it on with Chichi AT LEAST twice. So he obviously wasn't just more or less raped once and that was that. He apparently liked intimacy and sex enough to give it another go. =p
Goku's a lovable, airheaded jungle boy. Okay. But he also is one of the most loving and caring characters, although a bit oblivious and selfish. Still, in times of peace, when he doesn't have fighting to distract him...
...he obviously got it on with Chichi AT LEAST twice. So he obviously wasn't just more or less raped once and that was that. He apparently liked intimacy and sex enough to give it another go. =p
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It's at 1:30, enjoyKunzait_83 wrote: Is that an actual FUNi dub quote? Cause I totally don’t remember that one. Ugh, fucking gag me with a spoon.
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Holy crap, it's so much worse than I remember.
Only FUNimation are allowed to fuck Dragonball up.Kunzait_83 wrote: I think I might've brought up this point before in one of the other live action movie threads, but I don’t get how some folks can get so up in arms about this movie being unfaithful to its source material when considering that the dub and the overall FUNimation marketing has been thoroughly ass raping this franchise stateside for WAAAAAAAAY longer. This movie feels almost inconsequential to me at this point.
I’m not saying that someone can’t be a dub fan and also still hate this movie… I’m just saying that it makes people who are dub fans complaining about the movie being an unfaithful adaptation seem fairly hypocritical considering some of the unbelievable bullshit that some of the same people will bend over backwards to defend in the dub.
Seriously though, I completely agree, many fans seem to consider the FUNimation dub exempt from critisicm, simply because it's the "official English version" and the majority of them have no interest in checking out the original because of some sort of demented loyalty.
Not to mention the sad reality that the bulk of the fanbase has very little knowledge of Dragonball pre "Z" era, which makes their protests even more ridiculous.
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