Ginyu Squad: Freeza's top goons, or outsourced fighters?

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:00 pm

Well, yeah, I'm sure he'd have sold it if things went his way. But I don't think it was anything special.

I work at a hospital, and the first thing they drill into you is hand hygiene. So I might chastise a friend at a movie theater for not washing his hands in the bathroom. Just cuz it's my mindset. That doesn't mean I'm screening for a MRSA outbreak.

I don't think Earth was anything special to Vegeta. It was nice looking, easily habitable, and had a weak populace... so, sure, why not sell it. Heck, it was already on the list (hence Goku's presence there). But the only reason Raditz set foot on that planet was to fetch his brother, and the only reason Vegeta set foot on that planet was for the Dragon Balls. At least that's my interpretation.

Too bad they never told us what crazy planet they *were* interested in. You know, the one that had enough resistance to give even Vegeta trouble, yet Goku would be sufficient to tip the scales.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:08 pm

Onikage725 wrote:Well, yeah, I'm sure he'd have sold it if things went his way. But I don't think it was anything special.

I work at a hospital, and the first thing they drill into you is hand hygiene. So I might chastise a friend at a movie theater for not washing his hands in the bathroom. Just cuz it's my mindset. That doesn't mean I'm screening for a MRSA outbreak.

I don't think Earth was anything special to Vegeta. It was nice looking, easily habitable, and had a weak populace... so, sure, why not sell it. Heck, it was already on the list (hence Goku's presence there). But the only reason Raditz set foot on that planet was to fetch his brother, and the only reason Vegeta set foot on that planet was for the Dragon Balls. At least that's my interpretation.

Too bad they never told us what crazy planet they *were* interested in. You know, the one that had enough resistance to give even Vegeta trouble, yet Goku would be sufficient to tip the scales.

I always assumed that THAT was based on some misconceptions by Raditz about the comparative power of his allies. And Vegeta said "Sure, what the hell" because Raditz didn't really matter anyway.

Or perhaps the population was just HUGE, and enough of them swarming would be a problem, like Saiyans and Freeza. There was not a single Saiyan that stood a CHANCE against Frieza, but the group would be problematic.

And, for example, Frieza plus Ginyu Tokusentai would be FAR more effective against a group of Saiyans than just Frieza by himself, even though the Ginyu are so much weaker than Frieza.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:31 pm

It was always my thought that the Saiyan empire did one of two things: 9/10 times they sold a planet to the highest bidder, 1/10 times they kept it for themselves to expand their own empire (slaves, new technology, etc). Then Freeza comes along and gives them an ultimatum: "sell to me alone or I'll kill you." 9/10 times they sell to Freeza (who most likely won't be the highest bidder since he's the ONLY bidder), 1/10 they keep it for the empire. Not only that, but there are times when Freeza's goons will take that 1/10 before the Saiyans get to it.

After the destruction of planet Vegeta, Vegeta went from next in line as Ruler of a Galactic Empire to literally being homeless. It makes sense that he, Nappa, and Radditz would wind up as "just another team of warriors" in Freeza's army.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:44 pm

When was it said the Saiyans had an Empire? They seemed confined to Planet Vegeta, especially since Freeza thinks he got them all but Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:49 pm

From what we know of the Saiya-jin, they really don't seem the type to settle down on a planet after killing it's inhabitants, they don't conquer, they just murder everyone and sell the remains.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:18 pm

Rocketman wrote:When was it said the Saiyans had an Empire? They seemed confined to Planet Vegeta, especially since Freeza thinks he got them all but Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta.

Daizenshuu 7. It also makes the most sense and explains why there are aliens on planet Vegeta: well over 90% of Saiyans go straight into the military. The manga and anime itself imply that it's 100%. Can you see them using Saiyans in a factory or planting crops on a farm? It makes sense to enslave certain races and make them do the work (even on their own conquered planets) rather than spend money paying people to do it for them.

Post by **Herms** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:43 pm

Nappa also talks about reviving the "Saiyan empire" (or something to that effect) when he and Vegeta are heading to Earth and they discuss how powerful Earthling/Saiyan hybrids are.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:38 pm

Herms wrote:Nappa also talks about reviving the "Saiyan empire" (or something to that effect) when he and Vegeta are heading to Earth and they discuss how powerful Earthling/Saiyan hybrids are.

I always found that hilarious in how Vegeta was all "no, I don't want children they'll end up bratty and more powerful than me" and by the end of Dragon Ball he has two kids.

Can you imagine what their invasion of Earth would've been like if they went through with Nappa's sex plan though? o_O;;

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:40 pm

Chuquita wrote:
Herms wrote:Nappa also talks about reviving the "Saiyan empire" (or something to that effect) when he and Vegeta are heading to Earth and they discuss how powerful Earthling/Saiyan hybrids are.

I always found that hilarious in how Vegeta was all "no, I don't want children they'll end up bratty and more powerful than me" and by the end of Dragon Ball he has two kids.

Can you imagine what their invasion of Earth would've been like if they went through with Nappa's sex plan though? o_O;;

...

Well, now I can.

*shudder*

Nappa rape. Oh god.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:48 pm

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:25 pm

Chuquita wrote:Can you imagine what their invasion of Earth would've been like if they went through with Nappa's sex plan though? o_O;;

Midget miscolored Vegeta mackin' on some babes.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:58 am

Herms wrote:Nappa also talks about reviving the "Saiyan empire" (or something to that effect) when he and Vegeta are heading to Earth and they discuss how powerful Earthling/Saiyan hybrids are.

「ふたたびサイヤ人の天下も夢ではないぞ！」

What does "tenka" mean? The "Saiyan world"?

Post by **Herms** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:40 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:「ふたたびサイヤ人の天下も夢ではないぞ！」

What does "tenka" mean? The "Saiyan world"?

It seems like it can mean quite a few different things, like the whole world or a ruling power, and by extension a kingdom/nation. So 天下を取る means "conquer a country" and 天下を失う means to "lose the kingdom". You can check out it being used in many different phrases here.