Do you prefer Dragonball or DBZ?

Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
User avatar
Snail
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1989
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:38 pm
Location: Canada

Post by Snail » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:04 pm

Just pointing out a preference? I personally loved the entire series from start to end, including the animation. However, if given an ultimatum, I'd prefer to view Z purely for the eye-candy.

Rena Rune
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 248
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:51 pm

Post by Rena Rune » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:07 pm

My main problem with DBZ is that the Buu saga wasn't really tied into anything. It would have been much cooler if Buu tied into something from Dragonball like the Androids did, but preferably bigger since he's the final boss. Buu kind of appears out of nowhere. I suppose it continues the "there will nearly always be a bigger threat" theme from Dragonball Roshi tried to teach Goku, but that's about it.

I remember my friends disliked the Buu saga, but in these parts people seem to hold it in as high regard as the Cell/Androids saga. I really liked the Buus.

User avatar
DBHighDefinition
Regular
Posts: 614
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:04 pm
Location: England
Contact:

Post by DBHighDefinition » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:08 pm

I only like the Buu saga because of Faulconer's music. :P
[quote="Roshi in DB Evolution"]Believe it punk, you're getting your clock, cleaned![/quote]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/user/DBHighDef]My old YouTube is back up and running![/url]

User avatar
disturbed001
Regular
Posts: 506
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:36 pm
Location: Colorado
Contact:

Post by disturbed001 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:17 pm

I like the Buu saga because when I started watching Z was right at the end of the Cell Games, so I rememeber anticipating the next VHS release of the Buu stuff and I was very very into it.
"hmm lets see.....nope, I don't have any Jewish candy"

User avatar
Snail
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1989
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:38 pm
Location: Canada

Post by Snail » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:28 pm

Rena Rune wrote:My main problem with DBZ is that the Buu saga wasn't really tied into anything. It would have been much cooler if Buu tied into something from Dragonball like the Androids did, but preferably bigger since he's the final boss. Buu kind of appears out of nowhere. I suppose it continues the "there will nearly always be a bigger threat" theme from Dragonball Roshi tried to teach Goku, but that's about it.

I remember my friends disliked the Buu saga, but in these parts people seem to hold it in as high regard as the Cell/Androids saga. I really liked the Buus.
The Buu arc elaborates more upon the infrastructure of 'Other World', or 'Heaven', of which was left unexplored thoroughly after the Saiyan arc.

User avatar
B
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5563
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:15 am
Contact:

Post by B » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:03 pm

Overall, I guess Dragon Ball, but I'm not committed. The Red Ribbon arc, from the Red Ribbon Saga all the way to the Fortuneteller Baba Saga was my favortie storyline, but the Buu Saga is pretty close.

theoriginalbilis
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1908
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:33 pm
Location: United States
Contact:

Post by theoriginalbilis » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:21 pm

The only things that salvaged the Boo arc for me was Gohan's "Ultimate" power-up and return to Earth, Goku and Vegeta overcoming their differences and fusing into Vegetto, and the final battle with the little Boo.
Nothing matters (in a cosmic sense.) Have a good time.

User avatar
Majin Buu
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1309
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:23 pm

Post by Majin Buu » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:52 pm

I like watching Dragon Ball, but for me it doesn't get really good until Piccolo Daimaou shows up.

But to answer the topic question, most of the stuff I like is in Z, so DBZ.

User avatar
email2003
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 234
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:39 pm
Location: Katy / Houston,TX
Contact:

Post by email2003 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:17 am

DragonBall Z. I mostly enjoy watching the Saiyan - Freeza Saga.

_StreetSonic_
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:32 pm

Post by _StreetSonic_ » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:48 am

I love Dragonball more. I like the plots, and how it wasn't all about the Saiyans being the strongest.

User avatar
Forgotten Hero
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1391
Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:02 pm
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Contact:

Post by Forgotten Hero » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:01 am

I like Z better, the comedy side of Dragonball is great, but I really prefer the intergalactic destroying-planets fighting series that is DBZ.
Gohan: "You're a Buddhist." Kuririn: "A hungry Buddhist!"

User avatar
jda95
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1360
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:51 am
Location: 神様の神殿
Contact:

Post by jda95 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:24 am

I love the original, but I prefer the more action in Z.

And the Buu Arc is my favorite....

User avatar
Kendamu
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 7000
Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:31 am
Location: The Martial Arts World

Post by Kendamu » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:36 am

It isn't one or the other for me. For me, it's the 23rd Budokai through the fight with the Saiayns on Earth. That is my favorite part of the series.

User avatar
Super Ghost Kamikaze
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1809
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:10 pm

Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:54 am

Everything before Raditz shows up is my preference, should I have to choose. Of course I love all of the "Z" stuff too, with an especially great love of the Buu arc stuff....

...I can't help but feel like the older stuff is better. There's a sense of light-hearted adventure and humor about the whole thing. It feels more like a martial arts story, and the action in the series is just better. I don't care how STRONG they are, if their fight consists of "WOW THEY'RE GOING SO FAST THAT WE CAN'T SEE THEM AND NEED TO USE OUR KI SENSING POWERS!", it's not good action.

Same sentiment towards recycling the same four punches and blocks while the characters float, dissapear, and then float somewhere else. Rinse, repeat, yawn.

Further, Z likes to abandon characters. I mean, I don't think there was a point in the orignal DB stuff where a main character was just forced to the sidelines or into the mountains because they were totally worthless.

Also, it's before Power Levels.

User avatar
Chuquita
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 15269
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere

Post by Chuquita » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:58 am

I like the pre-Z humor more, but I really like adult Goku. And Vegeta.
Which is probably why the new animated special appealed to me so much.
On hiatus.

User avatar
jda95
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1360
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:51 am
Location: 神様の神殿
Contact:

Post by jda95 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:19 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Also, it's before Power Levels.
The worst thing about Z.

User avatar
mrkaizoku
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 191
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:28 am

Post by mrkaizoku » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:24 am

I consider them as both one series.

I really don't like the anime (DB/DBZ) that much. Events are stretched paper thin and filler is added. It makes it very hard for me to watch and enjoy it. Goku suddenly meets and fights with characters that hadn't been introduced yet. WHAT?! Tenshinhan has a pet pig that terrorizes people. WHAT?! Freeza fights and kills three warrior Namekians before fighting with Nail. WHAT?! All the filler really cheapens the stuff that isn't. Also Toei has a way with making sure filler episodes are drawn and animated beautifully while at the same time shitting on the things that actually happened. I find it wholly frustrating.

That said I love the music. I've been in complete love with Hironobu Kageyama since I first heard him back in the mid nineties, and the score is wonderful. The voice acting is also fantastic.

As far as what part of the series I like more, I would have to say that I prefer the beginning. I really love the adventure portion of the series. I would have loved it if Toriyama would have gone back to that at some point.
母しゃべる「ドッグチーズ」

User avatar
Super Ghost Kamikaze
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1809
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:10 pm

Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:50 am

mrkaizoku wrote:Also Toei has a way with making sure filler episodes are drawn and animated beautifully while at the same time shitting on the things that actually happened. I find it wholly frustrating.
...Um, I hate to break it to you, but the manga and the anime are both equally fictitious.

They never happened.

Sorry.

=(

User avatar
jda95
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1360
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:51 am
Location: 神様の神殿
Contact:

Post by jda95 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:53 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
mrkaizoku wrote:Also Toei has a way with making sure filler episodes are drawn and animated beautifully while at the same time shitting on the things that actually happened. I find it wholly frustrating.
...Um, I hate to break it to you, but the manga and the anime are both equally fictitious.

They never happened.

Sorry.

=(
Smartass! :D

User avatar
Raki
I Live Here
Posts: 2719
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:50 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Post by Raki » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:21 am

Dragonball, cause it's one big series to me.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

Post Reply