Dragon Small Z, my creation, trailer released

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:33 am

Innagadadavida wrote:could even combine Bruce's and the Japanese music to please all camps and help break the repetitiveness of the US music.

While your first paragraph may work if he has the technical know how I really, really hope he doesn't do this. That would be like like combining My Chemical Romance and Beethoven, although if he just wanted to occasionally replace the dub music with silence I wouldn't mind.

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:40 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:If you're using the Funimation dub good luck. The music is nonstop meaning the soundtrack will be bouncing around everywhere if you're cutting moments out causing for some very awkward listening. Hell the music would even pose an issue if you were working with the original version.

I love the concept but it's going to be hard to do.

I already know of this issue. Back in 2006 the music jumped like crazy during fights. I now can fix it because I use both the Japanese and the American music, the American music is by default, but I use what ever sounds better. Also I constantly adjust the volume so it flows smoothly. Also the more silent music sets the mood better in some cases I found out.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:53 pm

All I can say is that I really, really hope you follow through with this and do at least one saga. It makes me happy.

Son Sebbe · Post by **Son Sebbe** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:56 pm

This is awesome, Thought about doing it too:p
May I ask if you can draw or knows somebody who can?
If it finally could be freezer who killed Dende's brother. Or is that to much`? Sorry for asking if it is, I never came futher with video editing then ms paint. But I guess it's just a singel drawing and then a small edit of it. As sone as the beam if fired you can just use the orginal.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:06 pm

Hujio wrote:
sangofe wrote:Is there no way you can consider using the original, Japanese dub?
*Pet peeve!* There's no such thing as a Japanese dub, since that would imply the replacement of the original voices in the show with the original voices in the show. Sounds redundant, huh?

All anime is "dubbed". So I beg to differ, Hujio.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:17 pm

sangofe wrote:
Hujio wrote:
sangofe wrote:Is there no way you can consider using the original, Japanese dub?
*Pet peeve!* There's no such thing as a Japanese dub, since that would imply the replacement of the original voices in the show with the original voices in the show. Sounds redundant, huh?
All anime is "dubbed". So I beg to differ, Hujio.

The original Japanese track is recorded chorus-style.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:54 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
sangofe wrote:
Hujio wrote: *Pet peeve!* There's no such thing as a Japanese dub, since that would imply the replacement of the original voices in the show with the original voices in the show. Sounds redundant, huh?
All anime is "dubbed". So I beg to differ, Hujio.
The original Japanese track is recorded chorus-style.

I think he's referring to how the voices are added after the animation is drawn? Or is that what you're saying too? I don't know, it sprung to my mind too about the dubbed thing, but it is a rarer usage of the word.

disturbed001 · Post by **disturbed001** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:59 pm

I think a "Dub" means to add a voice track over the original voice track. Is Sponge Bob considered a "Dub"?

^ I'm asking that as a serious question, not sarcasm.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:02 pm

disturbed001 wrote:I think a "Dub" means to add a voice track over the original voice track. Is Sponge Bob considered a "Dub"?

^ I'm asking that as a serious question, not sarcasm.

Spongebob isn't. The two definitions of dub I know of are to record voices over the old voices or, more broadly, to record voices to match already existing animation. Western animation has the voices recorded first, then the animation drawn to match. Japanese animation has the animation drawn first, then the voice actors match their lines to the animation, so some people consider it dubbing.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:35 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:While your first paragraph may work if he has the technical know how I really, really hope he doesn't do this. That would be like like combining My Chemical Romance and Beethoven, although if he just wanted to occasionally replace the dub music with silence I wouldn't mind.

Actually no it wouldn't. The difference in quality between Faulkner's score and the Japanese score is much smaller than My Chemical Romance and Beethoven. I switch back and fourth all the time when I watch the DVDs, and I'm fine with it. The Japanese score fits better in some cases and vice versa.

But, uh, y'know... That's just like, uh, my opinion and stuff.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:28 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:While your first paragraph may work if he has the technical know how I really, really hope he doesn't do this. That would be like like combining My Chemical Romance and Beethoven, although if he just wanted to occasionally replace the dub music with silence I wouldn't mind.
Actually no it wouldn't. The difference in quality between Faulkner's score and the Japanese score is much smaller than My Chemical Romance and Beethoven. I switch back and fourth all the time when I watch the DVDs, and I'm fine with it. The Japanese score fits better in some cases and vice versa.

But, uh, y'know... That's just like, uh, my opinion and stuff.

Its not a case of quality. If you like fish thats cool. If you like peanut butter I'm down with that, but dont slap them together and call it a tasty after school snack.
I feel the two types of music are so infinitely different it would sound so awkard mixed and matched. We have orchestrated music together with a sad little redundant synth constantly switching off. No thank you

VenomSymbiote · Post by **VenomSymbiote** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:40 pm

Nice Trailer!

Looking forward to it!

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:46 am

The reason why I didn't use the Japanese voices is because I need to make perfect sense out of what I am editing. The way I cut the episodes I need to be more than fluent, and the subtitles wouldn't cover the full understanding of what is going on.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:38 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:The reason why I didn't use the Japanese voices is because I need to make perfect sense out of what I am editing. The way I cut the episodes I need to be more than fluent, and the subtitles wouldn't cover the full understanding of what is going on.

You'll get a lot more views with the dub voices. This forum is mostly about the Japanese version (or so they say), so the majority of the users here are subbies. It's not an accurate representation of the english speaking dragon ball fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:17 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
Khalid Shahin wrote:The reason why I didn't use the Japanese voices is because I need to make perfect sense out of what I am editing. The way I cut the episodes I need to be more than fluent, and the subtitles wouldn't cover the full understanding of what is going on.
You'll get a lot more views with the dub voices. This forum is mostly about the Japanese version (or so they say), so the majority of the users here are subbies. It's not an accurate representation of the english speaking dragon ball fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing.

Well, it's not like DaizEX chases dub fans out of town with torches and pitchforks, but we generally tend to refer to the Japanese version by default when it comes to gett facts about the series straight.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:33 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:The reason why I didn't use the Japanese voices is because I need to make perfect sense out of what I am editing. The way I cut the episodes I need to be more than fluent, and the subtitles wouldn't cover the full understanding of what is going on.

At least tell me it'll use the JPN BGM.

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:24 pm

Good luck خالد

Nice to know other Arabian fans among the Daizenshuu EX's forums

. You are Arabian, right?

Dragon Ball Z without filler... I'll love it!

The only downfall is that you'll use FUNimation's dub.
:shudders: Grandma Frieza :shudders:

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:33 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Khalid Shahin wrote:The reason why I didn't use the Japanese voices is because I need to make perfect sense out of what I am editing. The way I cut the episodes I need to be more than fluent, and the subtitles wouldn't cover the full understanding of what is going on.
You'll get a lot more views with the dub voices. This forum is mostly about the Japanese version (or so they say), so the majority of the users here are subbies. It's not an accurate representation of the english speaking dragon ball fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing.

Funi's dub isn't an accurate representation of the show. Oh yeah, we refer to the Japanese version/manga cause it presents the story. If the creator of this new series wants to be accurate, using the Japanese version makes more sense. It's Dragonball Z on youtube for Kami's sake. It will get views no matter what.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:01 pm

The plus of using the 5.1 sound is the ability to make cuts iwthout them being incredibly jarring.

Bardock the Mexican · Post by **Bardock the Mexican** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:09 pm

This sounds pretty awesome from the get go. I can't wait to see how this is going to pan out with the final result and all. Or how Funimation is going to respond when it goes up on YouTube. Ojala que seria tan bueno por la fanaticos del doblado original y japonesa. I hope it works out for everyone.