Recoome, Burter and Jeice

[SSj_Rambo]

The next questions I have concerns Si Xing Long and Super Saiyan 4 Kakarrot. It is stated in GT that Kakarrot was stronger but Si Xing Long was faster. Could Si Xing Long eventually hurt or kill Kakarrot? If Kakarrot’s stats were high on the strength end, does strength equal power? If so, would that not mean that Si Xing Long could not kill him? Just hit him more often, I am attempting to understand the this Dragonball statistical model.

(Please do not answer it is GT)

You can see similar cases in actual fights. With those stats, it depends on how much more speed Yi Xing Long had than Goku, and how much more speed Goku had than Yi Xing Long. Based on what we see, the difference seems pretty big between in speed, and pretty close in strength/power, so I could see it panning out as Yi Xing Long dancing around and peppering Goku with attacks, but it is only a matter of time before Goku is able to daze him with a powerful attack; but not one that could do the same amount of damage that Yi Xing Long had already done to him.

I'm looking at this from the standpoint of a person who enjoys analyzing such differences in skills between MMA fighters, so different people may disagree with me here, but I'd say that Yi Xing Long would start out winning, and do more damage, but once Goku gets a feel for his timing he'll be able to anticipate the next move and land a nice shot, and the amount of damage done to each other will be pretty even, with Yi Xing Long being ahead by say 'x' amount. Then the process would repeat, and after Goku lands his nice shot the difference between the damage done to each other would be '2x', with Yi Xing Long in the lead?

Did anyone follow this? I barely did. I can explain it better if anyone wants.

[Bussani]

The next questions I have concerns Si Xing Long and Super Saiyan 4 Kakarrot. It is stated in GT that Kakarrot was stronger but Si Xing Long was faster. Could Si Xing Long eventually hurt or kill Kakarrot? If Kakarrot’s stats were high on the strength end, does strength equal power? If so, would that not mean that Si Xing Long could not kill him? Just hit him more often, I am attempting to understand the this Dragonball statistical model.

(Please do not answer it is GT)

You can see similar cases in actual fights. With those stats, it depends on how much more speed Yi Xing Long had than Goku, and how much more speed Goku had than Yi Xing Long. Based on what we see, the difference seems pretty big between in speed, and pretty close in strength/power, so I could see it panning out as Yi Xing Long dancing around and peppering Goku with attacks, but it is only a matter of time before Goku is able to daze him with a powerful attack; but not one that could do the same amount of damage that Yi Xing Long had already done to him.

I'm looking at this from the standpoint of a person who enjoys analyzing such differences in skills between MMA fighters, so different people may disagree with me here, but I'd say that Yi Xing Long would start out winning, and do more damage, but once Goku gets a feel for his timing he'll be able to anticipate the next move and land a nice shot, and the amount of damage done to each other will be pretty even, with Yi Xing Long being ahead by say 'x' amount. Then the process would repeat, and after Goku lands his nice shot the difference between the damage done to each other would be '2x', with Yi Xing Long in the lead?

Did anyone follow this? I barely did. I can explain it better if anyone wants.

Makes sense and I agree. There are cases where a stronger character simply won't take a scratch from a weaker one, but in Si Xing Long's case I can see him gradually building up damage on Goku. It's not like he was that weak.

[Herms]

You can see similar cases in actual fights. With those stats, it depends on how much more speed Yi Xing Long had than Goku, and how much more speed Goku had than Yi Xing Long.

Saiyan-Professor was talking about Si Xing Long, the 4-Star Dragon.

[SSj_Rambo]

You can see similar cases in actual fights. With those stats, it depends on how much more speed Yi Xing Long had than Goku, and how much more speed Goku had than Yi Xing Long.

Saiyan-Professor was talking about Si Xing Long, the 4-Star Dragon.

Doh! I knew that, and that is what I meant; for some reason my brain just kept saying 'Y' instead of 'S'.

[shinaobi]

I'd personally say that Si Xing Long could eventually drop Kakarrot; from what I've seen of the fight they aren't THAT far apart in power or speed, so I don't think Si has the extreme advantage that would be necessary to make such a tactic really viable, nor is Goku so far above the 4-star in power that he can do what Nappa did, which was basically just leaning back and taking it until he got bored or someone said something mean about his mum.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I've always had them at exact equal strength, since nothing in the manga suggests that one is stronger than the other.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Yeah, they have the same Chi, so they're equal.

But, I often feel that certain guys can possibly have more speed and less power then others. A few examples (I.E Piccolo and Third form Freeza; Super Saiyan Gohan and Majin Boo) seem to prove that wrong, though. Tien was impressed with Goku's power, but didn't think much of his speed. However, since he was weighted, that would explain why he had no great speed even though he was several times stronger then the Goku Tien had last saw.

Uh, silly me.

[Bussani]

I've always had them at exact equal strength, since nothing in the manga suggests that one is stronger than the other.

It's not just having the ki that counts, it's being able to use it. And what you're best at using it for, presumably. The manga does hint that Burter was the fastest after all.