Son Goku's Disease Origin

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:12 pm

Where did Son Goku's viral heart disease come from? I heard that he caught it from one of the Yardratians, but I'm not sure. Maybe it was just a regular disease that ordinary people pick up. Is there anything from the Daizenshuu that gives at least a hint as to where it is from?

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:18 pm

I think he could've caught it anywhere, but my personal guess would be Earth because I think it'd be easier to come up with a medicine/antidote to a local strain of virus than it would for a space-virus.

Also Trunks may or may not have said something about the medicine existing regularly in his time versus the present. It could've been some new type of disease and Goku was just one of those to get it first?

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:19 pm

I'm pretty sure it's just run of the mill heart disease that anyone can get. That's what made it a big deal, that the strongest warrior in the universe was killed by something so common.

Darkprince410 · Post by **Darkprince410** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:39 pm

If I remember correctly, he commented that it was a relatively new disease and that there was no antidote for it in the present, but in the future the disease obviously had become prevalent enough that an antidote was created to combat it.

ImmortalSandwich · Post by **ImmortalSandwich** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:46 pm

Yeah it's like AIDS in that sense. Goku got it and nobody knew what it was at the time, and it eventually killed him. They developed a cure after he died. (There's no cure for AIDS, but the not knowing wtf it is part is what I was getting at)

saiyanprincess · Post by **saiyanprincess** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:05 pm

Yeah you guys are spot on, In the near future they manage to make a cure for this disease in between fighting the androids. I believe Trunks does say a disease not too far from now, I always implied it was a new super-bug that attacks the heart of humans and saiyans. (A bit like VHD in rabbits.)

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:05 pm

I always thought/assumed (take your pick) he picked it up on Yardrat.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:07 pm

The Tori-bot wrote:I always thought/assumed (take your pick) he picked it up on Yardrat.

Not saying you're wrong, but he could have been carrying it for years before it surfaced. There's no way of knowing really.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:33 pm

Nothing is ever said about when or where he picked it up. Though since a vaccine was created for it in the future, other people besides him must have had it. So if he did pick it up on Yardrat, that would mean that he brought the disease to Earth and spread it around.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:55 pm

Herms wrote:So if he did pick it up on Yardrat, that would mean that he brought the disease to Earth and spread it around.

I made a chart outlining how the infection would spread some time ago:

B · Post by B » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:57 pm

I prefer to picture Goku just spitting on people.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:19 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Herms wrote:So if he did pick it up on Yardrat, that would mean that he brought the disease to Earth and spread it around.
I made a chart outlining how the infection would spread some time ago:
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It wouldn't be so bad if all your image-responses weren't so interesting.
... (Meaning, what does this chart show?)

Considering that Goku's symptoms showed up later than Trunks predicted, I want to guess from Earth. It's possible that his training with Piccolo and Gohan (wait, Goku training with Piccolo? I just realized how novell that is...) could have slowed it's surfacing... I figure it probably just kept him away from people more often...

... Goku caught it from the driving school!

... Did I win anything?

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:41 pm

I don't know why I thought of the Yardrat thing, I think I might've seen it on Wikipedia or read it in some DBZ book a while ago.

But I now think that Goku must've caught the heart disease on Earth, a regular disease like any other. The strongest being in the universe, a Super Saiyan, being killed by a heart disease.

Kirbopher · Post by **Kirbopher** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:45 pm

Did Trunks say all of those details only in the dub, though?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:56 pm

caejones wrote:Considering that Goku's symptoms showed up later than Trunks predicted, I want to guess from Earth. It's possible that his training with Piccolo and Gohan (wait, Goku training with Piccolo? I just realized how novell that is...) could have slowed it's surfacing... I figure it probably just kept him away from people more often...

It's supposed to be contagious, so maybe he picked it up on the island where #19 and #20 debuted, or somewhere he visited shortly before leaving for the island.

Basically I'm hypothesizing that, in the original timeline, he went somewhere that caused him to pick it up. Since he was busy training in the altered timeline, he didn't visit that place until about three years later.

Post by **Herms** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:05 pm

Kirbopher wrote:Did Trunks say all of those details only in the dub, though?

Which details? He does say in the manga that there's no cure for the disease now but that there is in the future, if that what you mean. If I remember right (and it's been a lo~ong time), in the dub Trunks says that the heart disease is a new disease that will all over the news pretty soon, which isn't in the original.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:23 am

Dayspring wrote:
caejones wrote:Considering that Goku's symptoms showed up later than Trunks predicted, I want to guess from Earth. It's possible that his training with Piccolo and Gohan (wait, Goku training with Piccolo? I just realized how novell that is...) could have slowed it's surfacing... I figure it probably just kept him away from people more often...
It's supposed to be contagious, so maybe he picked it up on the island where #19 and #20 debuted, or somewhere he visited shortly before leaving for the island.

Basically I'm hypothesizing that, in the original timeline, he went somewhere that caused him to pick it up. Since he was busy training in the altered timeline, he didn't visit that place until about three years later.

... Or driving school.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:59 am

It would be a great stroke of dramatic irony if Trunks was a carrier for the virus and his very presence in the past infected Gokū with it, thus causing the effects of his future… I know DBZ’s time-traveling rules disallow this, but I’m a sucker for paradoxes.