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by DemonRin » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:35 am
I'm posting this here instead of the other Episode 3 thread since this is the official one, but this pertains to a debate that started in there. So if you wana know where I'm coming from, check in there.
I am Getting REALLY REALLY Tired of People calling "Hypocrite" every time someone says they like Kai.
STOP IT!! If you REALLY think that, then you don't know what the real problem with The Saban and FUNi versions are in the first place.
I'll break it down for you:
Saban Edits:
- Reasonable Edits to get the show on TV that were handled well (almost anything involving the Violence)
- Reasonable Edits to get the show on TV that were handled Poorly and look ridiculous (HFIL, "Just you wait till it grows back")
- Nonesensical Script Edits that make absolutely no sense and contribute nothing to getting the show on TV ("Your father was a BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!!")
Actually, All of this is TOTALLY Forgivable (you heard me) So why did it piss everyone off?
Now Pay attention here, this is important.
BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DO AN UNCUT VHS/DVD RELEASE!!
Now, we get to the Solo FUNi days.
What did THEY do?!
- Skipped the Saban episodes due to Rights, and did the rest of the series
- Over saturated the hell out of the video resulting in eye-burning colors (This was forgivable in the grand scheme of things)
- When they finally got around to doing the Saban episodes, they DISCONTINUED THEM BEFORE THEY FINISHED THEM!! You now can't get approximately 30-40 Episodes of Dragon Ball Z in America uncut and in fullscreen. At all.
- Discontinued ALL of their Fullscreen DVDs, so even if you don't care about the missing episodes, you can't get the REST of the fullscreen DVDs without a massive hunt
Then they did the Season Sets...
- Video was straight-cropped, meaning they cropped it the exact same way, straight across the middle of the frame for the ENTIRE SERIES, regardless of the context of the scene in question. This was actually only a SMALL PART of what made these sets suck
- ran the video through an automatic remaster process that removed dust and scratches but also bleached out the picture sometimes and caused lines to disappear during high-motion scenes (this problem went away by about the 4th or 5th boxed set)
- The Ad Campaign pretty much lied to people by calling it "Dragon Ball Z: The way it was MEANT to be seen" and showed Movie Footage to prove their point (the movies WERE meant to be seen in Widescreen, unlike the series)
THAT is Why people hated FUNi and Saban.
Now, what did Toei do?
- Released the ENTIRE SERIES including DB, GT and the Movies on 5 REALLY Nice DVD boxed sets
- The Video was well and truly Remastered, it's all in 4:3 aspect (Except the movies) and the picture quality is superb, no Saturation of the colors.
- They discontinued the boxed sets, but relreleased all of the discs as single volumes, They are still in Print, you can buy them right now in Japan if you like.
And For Kai
- Advertised it as Changed, they flat out said "The Story has been edited to be more Speedy"
- Even went so far as to Rename this edited version and treat it as it's own entitiy
- Rerecorded the Voices with the old cast, and getting an updated musical score. For the First time EVER, Dragon Ball Z in STEREO!! (I SAID Z!! Don't Point out the GT special or the Anniversary Movie to me please)
And this one is VERY important, so I will say it again: They NEVER discontinued the DBZ DVDs. If you don't like Kai, you have the choice to Ignore it. You can buy all 291 Episodes of the Series Entirely unedited, uncropped, and Uncut on DVD in Japan
FUNi has NEVER given us that Luxury, EVER!! There are, and always will be about 40 episodes you just plain CANNOT buy in America unedited and uncropped. You simply can't.
And I'm not saying "OMFG, STOP CRITICISING KAI!!". You can criticize, you can dislike it. Just stop calling us hypocrites for liking it, and Stop acting like by making it, Toei has kicked your dog. Toei has made it EXTREMELY Easy to just ignore Kai and buy the DVDs if you like. They aren't "OMFG EVIL COMPANY MUST DIE!!" They've done an awesome Job with DBZ, and now they've made Kai. you might consider it a a streak in their record if you don't like Kai, but they aren't treating it like Z and you can still get Z if you like, so they've always gone right by Z.
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DemonRin on Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
"FUNi should take [DBZ] out behind the woodshed, give it one last treat, then blow its f%#@$ng brains out before it attacks the baby again." ~Rocketman
