Compare American and Japanese Heroes

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:21 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:...(points to the person who knows why he is relevant to this conversion) ;p

-Corey

He was in Season 5 of Angel as Matthias Pavayne, is that why you mentioned him?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:34 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:He was in Season 5 of Angel as Matthias Pavayne, is that why you mentioned him?

Bingo. Double-points if you know the other reason he came to mind while talking about vampires (don't look it up, that's cheating

).

-Corey

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:34 am

SSJ2bardock wrote:So does that sort of make Yamcha like the Aqua Man? A cool character in concept, but one who never really does anything....

Aquaman does stuff. Always did, but Superfriends made him lame and a lot of folks only knew of him as he was on there.

SaiyanBlood · Post by **SaiyanBlood** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:24 am

Bulma reminds me a lot of Kitty/Kathleen from the Bartimaeus Trilogy.
For those of you who haven't read the books, go check it out, please. It's really good.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:10 pm

Dr. Casey wrote:Maybe Superman is a Dick paints him in a bad light, but I really can't picture Superman as a boy scout, so much as an epic jerkass and complete unsympathetic bastard.

That's just cruel.

So he's exactly like Goku, then.

And I definitely agree on the Spike-Vegeta comparisons.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:36 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:He was in Season 5 of Angel as Matthias Pavayne, is that why you mentioned him?
Bingo. Double-points if you know the other reason he came to mind while talking about vampires (don't look it up, that's cheating ).

-Corey

Haha touche (from a guy currently playing Soul Reaver on PSP while on dinner break at work).

Y'know... not speaking for the morality behind their motives... there are some interesting similarities to be drawn between Season 5's Angel and Kain...

Gouki* · Post by Gouki* » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:35 am

NeptuneKai wrote:I always thought Bulma and Princess Leia were very alike. Both want to be in control but are constantly being pushed aside by the heroes who have their own agenda. Although weak both aren't afraid to give the villains (and heroes) a piece of their mind and while somewhat bitchy are kind at heart. They are both often fed up with the heroes uninformed nature and aren't half bad with projectile weapons.

( Okay fine she may not be a super hero but...close enough.)

Ha ha. What? Leia is definitely not weak. Physically or emotionally.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:24 am

Gouki* wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:I always thought Bulma and Princess Leia were very alike. Both want to be in control but are constantly being pushed aside by the heroes who have their own agenda. Although weak both aren't afraid to give the villains (and heroes) a piece of their mind and while somewhat bitchy are kind at heart. They are both often fed up with the heroes uninformed nature and aren't half bad with projectile weapons.

( Okay fine she may not be a super hero but...close enough.)
Ha ha. What? Leia is definitely not weak. Physically or emotionally.

Unless I'm missing something when did Leia ever show any physical or mystical strength?

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:26 am

NeptuneKai wrote:
Gouki* wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:I always thought Bulma and Princess Leia were very alike. Both want to be in control but are constantly being pushed aside by the heroes who have their own agenda. Although weak both aren't afraid to give the villains (and heroes) a piece of their mind and while somewhat bitchy are kind at heart. They are both often fed up with the heroes uninformed nature and aren't half bad with projectile weapons.

( Okay fine she may not be a super hero but...close enough.)
Ha ha. What? Leia is definitely not weak. Physically or emotionally.
Unless I'm missing something when did Leia ever show any physical or mystical strength?

Without bringing the Expanded Universe into the equation?

Uh... she shot that Scout trooper in ROTJ!

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:50 am

The Tori-bot wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:
Gouki* wrote: Ha ha. What? Leia is definitely not weak. Physically or emotionally.
Unless I'm missing something when did Leia ever show any physical or mystical strength?
Without bringing the Expanded Universe into the equation?

Uh... she shot that Scout trooper in ROTJ!

Which I think I covered in my sentence about projectile weapons.

But yeah I guess she could have been Wonder Woman in the expanded universe for all I know. I never got into the books.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:18 pm

I always felt Vegeta had a lot in common with Batman. Less forgiving than Goku(Superman), he's the only one who can stand a chance against Goku(Superman) in a fight, he's not a boyscout like Goku(Superman) and has a lot of money.

The only other comparison I could make off the top of my head at the moment would be Trunks and John Connors from the Terminator series(yes I know not really a comic book hero but still).

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:56 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:I always felt Vegeta had a lot in common with Batman. Less forgiving than Goku(Superman), he's the only one who can stand a chance against Goku(Superman) in a fight, he's not a boyscout like Goku(Superman) and has a lot of money.

The only other comparison I could make off the top of my head at the moment would be Trunks and John Connors from the Terminator series(yes I know not really a comic book hero but still).

Wouldn't Trunks be more along the lines of Kyle Reese?

Daburcor · Post by **Daburcor** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:17 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:
I'll also compare Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer & Angel to Vegeta, they're a lot alike. Seriously.

I would say that Vegeta is more like Spike, Angel was a pussy.
Err, he was saying Spike was on Buffy and Angel (James Marsters joined the cast for Season 5 of the latter, since Buffy had already ended) and is similar to Vegeta ;p

I wouldn't classify Angel as a pussy anyway. If you've seen the 2nd season of Buffy (which, granted, is the Angelus persona), or the 2nd and 3rd seasons of Angel (with his war against Wolfram and Hart, and in season 3 when he goes nuts after his son is ________) in particular, I think you'd agree he isn't a pussy by any stretch.

-Corey

You just made me want to watch through Angel again...

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:38 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:I always felt Vegeta had a lot in common with Batman. Less forgiving than Goku(Superman), he's the only one who can stand a chance against Goku(Superman) in a fight, he's not a boyscout like Goku(Superman) and has a lot of money.

The only other comparison I could make off the top of my head at the moment would be Trunks and John Connors from the Terminator series(yes I know not really a comic book hero but still).
Wouldn't Trunks be more along the lines of Kyle Reese?

Now that you mention it, He would make a better Kyle Reese than John, however everytime I see T2 and Johns hair cut I think back to a young future trunks.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:39 pm

NeptuneKai wrote: Unless I'm missing something when did Leia ever show any physical or mystical strength?

I'll remain strictly to movie continuity for this.

Mystical is pretty easy. First of all, it's outright said by Yoda that she's powerful mystically, with the "There is another" line. She has that connection to Luke after he had his hand sliced off and he fell in Cloud City, allowing his rescue. And she has a sort of mystical knowledge of what Luke told her in Return of the Jedi, with that "I've always known" line.

There are fewer examples of physical strength, but they're there. She was able to resist the empire's interrogation techniques. She strangled Jabba the Hutt to death. If it counts, she's probably the best shot of all the main cast.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:47 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote: Unless I'm missing something when did Leia ever show any physical or mystical strength?
I'll remain strictly to movie continuity for this.

Mystical is pretty easy. First of all, it's outright said by Yoda that she's powerful mystically, with the "There is another" line. She has that connection to Luke after he had his hand sliced off and he fell in Cloud City, allowing his rescue. And she has a sort of mystical knowledge of what Luke told her in Return of the Jedi, with that "I've always known" line.

There are fewer examples of physical strength, but they're there. She was able to resist the empire's interrogation techniques. She strangled Jabba the Hutt to death. If it counts, she's probably the best shot of all the main cast.

I really don't want to turn this into a Star Wars debate thread but a few of those are stretches. In any event I can see where that's coming from though.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:54 pm

NeptuneKai wrote: I really don't want to turn this into a Star Wars debate thread but a few of those are stretches. In any event I can see where that's coming from though.

Right. Wouldn't want to derail the Buffy/Angel debate thread.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:06 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote: I really don't want to turn this into a Star Wars debate thread but a few of those are stretches. In any event I can see where that's coming from though.
Right. Wouldn't want to derail the Buffy/Angel debate thread.

touche' my Super Ghost friend.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:11 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:I always felt Vegeta had a lot in common with Batman. Less forgiving than Goku(Superman), he's the only one who can stand a chance against Goku(Superman) in a fight, he's not a boyscout like Goku(Superman) and has a lot of money...

Ah, I knew there were similarities between the Batman/Superman and Vegeta/Kakarrot dynamic but for some reason I could not put my finger on it. Kakarrot and Superman are assholes and Vegeta and Batman are kings of bad-assery.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:07 pm

Daburcor wrote:You just made me want to watch through Angel again...

No shame in that, his is an epic saga.

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Right. Wouldn't want to derail the Buffy/Angel debate thread.

Hey, they once referenced DBZ. And once I think up a point in regard to that, I'll divulge.

Kanzenshuu

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