So... who DID write DBGT?

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:52 pm

I'm one of those pedants who only considers canon the parts of a franchise written by the original creator. However, I was recently watching DBGT and noticed something odd: no writer is credited. A credit is given to Toriyama for the works it was based on, but no actual credit is given for the teleplay itself. Is this normal for anime? If something like this happened in the States, the unions would flip.

Post by **Herms** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:16 pm

Well, there were several different writers overall. Going by AnimeNewsNetwork, screenplays were written by Aya Matsui, Daisuke Yajima, Jun Maekawa, Junki Takegami, and Masahi Kubota, while Daisuke Nishio and Osamu Kasai were the series directors, and Aya Matsui was in charge of series composition.

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:21 pm

Oh don't worry, someone was credited. Toriyama is simply listed as the original author, meaning the series is based off of his original DragonBall. Matsui Aya is credited as the series organizer and is the man responsible for the overall plot of DragonBall GT. Once he had established the plot, he would assign various writers, like Herms mentioned, to divide up the overall plot into specific episodes. You can basically credit Matsui Aya for writing GT, since unlike the other series, it was not based off of the manga.

B · Post by B » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:41 pm

Did Daisuke Nishio have that much invovlement in GT, if at all? I'm a bit wary of ANN.

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:49 pm

Um... I guess I never noticed... but now that you mention it, Nishio Daisuke had absolutely no involvement in GT. He isn't listed as a series director or even an episode director in the credits. The only series director credited in all 64 episodes was Kasai Osamu. So I guess ANN got that completely wrong.

Post by **Herms** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:50 pm

Incidentally, Aya Matsui is the one who wrote the Trunks side-story found in the anime comic for the Barduck special. In contrast to Matsui's involvement in GT, Takao Koyama was the one in charge of series composition for DBZ, and the one who wrote the scripts for the various movies (and the Piccolo and Vegeta side-stories, as it were).

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:06 pm

Koyama Takao also did the series composition for DB. However, we should note that unlike Matsui Aya, Koyama Takao was able to use the manga as a basis for both series. He also had meetings with Toriyama, who was much more involved in DB and DBZ than he was in GT. Because as far as we know, Toriyama's only involvement in GT was creating the initial character designs for the major characters and designing the series logo. Matsui Aya pretty much wrote the entire series by himself, though I'm sure he had a little input from producers.

Incidentally, Matsui Aya wrote the script for the 10th anniversary movie. Koyama Takao on the other hand wrote the scrips for all 13 DBZ movies, but the DB movies were written by various people; Inoue Toshiki (DB 1), Terui Keiji (DB 2), & Yuki Yoshifumi (DB 3). More recently, the Jump Super Anime Tour special's script was written by Koyama Takao based on Toriyama's ideas. How much input Toriyama really had is still unknown.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:02 pm

So the same person who wrote the movies wrote the new animated special's script as well? That's so awesome! X3

I'd like to see future db specials done by Koyama Takao.

Vino · Post by **Vino** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:53 pm

I wish GT didn't exist...god...

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:13 pm

I was looking through some of the images I had saved on my computer relating to the work behind GT for anything with info on the writers (even though the question had already been completely demolished by Kanzentai

), and found this image of what is supposed to be the script and/or storyboard for DBGT episode 32, but the episode title at the bottom of the disc does not correspond with the episodes actual title (悟空を返せ!! 怒りの戦士ウーブ).

Am I wrong and is that not the supposed episode title at the bottom of that booklet, or is that the initial episode title, and there was a last minute change?

DragonBalllKaiHD · Post by **DragonBalllKaiHD** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:26 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
[snip]

Hey, I like the colors of these characters. They should have kept original DBZ color animation for DBGT.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:44 am

SSj_Rambo wrote: Am I wrong and is that not the supposed episode title at the bottom of that booklet, or is that the initial episode title, and there was a last minute change?

That's the episode title, but it's labled as provisional. It reads Uubu sanjou! Gokuu wo machinagara/"Awaiting Goku, Oob Arrives!"

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:21 am

Herms wrote:Incidentally, Aya Matsui is the one who wrote the Trunks side-story found in the anime comic for the Barduck special. In contrast to Matsui's involvement in GT, Takao Koyama was the one in charge of series composition for DBZ, and the one who wrote the scripts for the various movies (and the Piccolo and Vegeta side-stories, as it were).

I have been curious about this for awhile. Did he write the entire script by himelf? Or was the plot decided on by committee, then given to him to turn into a script?

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:40 am

Herms wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote: Am I wrong and is that not the supposed episode title at the bottom of that booklet, or is that the initial episode title, and there was a last minute change?
That's the episode title, but it's labled as provisional. It reads Uubu sanjou! Gokuu wo machinagara/"Awaiting Goku, Oob Arrives!"

I thought that might be the case, but I was expecting the titles to be labeled as tentative (仮) if that were the case, like the first four announced DBK episode titles. That's a neat little tidbit, though. Are the provisional titles given for any of the other episodes in any of the three series?

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote:[snip]
Hey, I like the colors of these characters. They should have kept original DBZ color animation for DBGT.

Don't you mean "we"? I thought you said you were serious about "being" Toei...

Post by **Herms** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:55 am

SSj_Rambo wrote: I thought that might be the case, but I was expecting the titles to be labeled as tentative (仮) if that were the case, like the first four announced DBK episode titles.

If you look closely, you can see (仮題), kadai/"provisional title", written to the right of the title in a small font.

That's a neat little tidbit, though. Are the provisional titles given for any of the other episodes in any of the three series?

Not that I know of offhand.

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:12 am

Vino wrote:I wish GT didn't exist...god...

Great input to the discussion.

SSj_Rambo wrote:[image snipped]

Yeah, that's a script book for GT. I actually own one from DragonBall Z and I've seen a couple from every series online over the past couple of years. They're pretty rare, from what I can tell. I won't be home all weekend, so I can't look right now, but I'm pretty sure the episode title on my script book is also provisional.

Victator Supreme wrote:I have been curious about this for awhile. Did he write the entire script by himelf? Or was the plot decided on by committee, then given to him to turn into a script?

Who exactly are you talking about, and in relation to what series? Either way, the "Animation Process" page on Kanzentai should answer your question. Be sure to read "Stage 1: Planning and Scriptwriting".

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:19 pm

Which does remind me...weren't there a few other temporary or alternate titles/episode descriptions that were floating around for GT? Almost like those for Mobile Suit Gundam?

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:28 pm

Hujio wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:I have been curious about this for awhile. Did he write the entire script by himelf? Or was the plot decided on by committee, then given to him to turn into a script?
Who exactly are you talking about, and in relation to what series? Either way, the "Animation Process" page on Kanzentai should answer your question. Be sure to read "Stage 1: Planning and Scriptwriting".

The DBZ movies.

DragonBalllKaiHD · Post by **DragonBalllKaiHD** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:55 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote:[snip]
Hey, I like the colors of these characters. They should have kept original DBZ color animation for DBGT.
Don't you mean "we"? I thought you said you were serious about "being" Toei...

Well, I was a kid when "Toei" was doing DBGT. Now I'm 20 and a president of Toei Animation. I bought it out last year. If I was an adult back then, I could have fired them all and re-doing GT.

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:57 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:
Hujio wrote:Who exactly are you talking about, and in relation to what series? Either way, the "Animation Process" page on Kanzentai should answer your question. Be sure to read "Stage 1: Planning and Scriptwriting".
The DBZ movies.

Ah, so you're talking about Koyama Takao. Did I answer your question or do you need further clarification? Cause you didn't really say one way or the other.