So... who DID write DBGT?

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:45 am

Hujio wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:
Hujio wrote:Who exactly are you talking about, and in relation to what series? Either way, the "Animation Process" page on Kanzentai should answer your question. Be sure to read "Stage 1: Planning and Scriptwriting".
The DBZ movies.
Ah, so you're talking about Koyama Takao. Did I answer your question or do you need further clarification? Cause you didn't really say one way or the other.

Yeah sorry I was unclear. I was wanting to know if the plots of the movies came from him. Or did he write a script based on a plot that was decided by committee? Again sorry I was unclear.

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:23 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:Yeah sorry I was unclear. I was wanting to know if the plots of the movies came from him. Or did he write a script based on a plot that was decided by committee? Again sorry I was unclear.

Well, you're still a little unclear because I'm still not sure if I answered your question or not. However, I'll work under the assumption that I didn't since you simply restated your original question.

The planning process for most episodes and movies start off exactly the same way, with a planning meeting. The main staff gets together, usually including the original author (Toriyama), the manga's current editor, the series director, planner, composer, and producers, to work out the main details. In DragonBall Z, for both the episodes and movies, Koyama Takao filled the roll of series composer. During this planning meeting, the main plot of the movie is proposed and decided on.

Once the proposal has been finalized, a draft script of the plot of the movie is written up by the series composer. While the script is being written, meetings are held with directors and producers to help polish up the script and to ensure that the scenario fits within everyone's vision of where they want the movie to go. These meetings occur roughly 3 to 4 times before a final draft is agreed upon.

So, while Koyama Takao wrote the script himself, he did have some input from directors and producers. However, it's safe to assume that he had the most influence on each movie's overall plot.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:33 pm

Which brings up the question of how long were these meetings?? These people must have spent 12-17 hours a day working on this show, espicially Toriyama if he was also doing the Manga and working with the Anime staff...

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Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:54 pm

Hujio wrote:
Victator Supreme wrote:Yeah sorry I was unclear. I was wanting to know if the plots of the movies came from him. Or did he write a script based on a plot that was decided by committee? Again sorry I was unclear.
Well, you're still a little unclear because I'm still not sure if I answered your question or not. However, I'll work under the assumption that I didn't since you simply restated your original question.

The planning process for most episodes and movies start off exactly the same way, with a planning meeting. The main staff gets together, usually including the original author (Toriyama), the manga's current editor, the series director, planner, composer, and producers, to work out the main details. In DragonBall Z, for both the episodes and movies, Koyama Takao filled the roll of series composer. During this planning meeting, the main plot of the movie is proposed and decided on.

Once the proposal has been finalized, a draft script of the plot of the movie is written up by the series composer. While the script is being written, meetings are held with directors and producers to help polish up the script and to ensure that the scenario fits within everyone's vision of where they want the movie to go. These meetings occur roughly 3 to 4 times before a final draft is agreed upon.

So, while Koyama Takao wrote the script himself, he did have some input from directors and producers. However, it's safe to assume that he had the most influence on each movie's overall plot.

Thanks thats exactly what I wanted to know.

Post by **Herms** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:31 am

There's this great bit from the GT Perfect Files where they talk about the importance in deciding on the name of the movie, because apparently they picked the name first and then wrote the actual movie afterwards. It gives DBZ movie 13's title as an example, explaining that once they had decided on the name being "Dragon Fist Explosion! If Goku Doesn't Do It, Who Will?!", they could then move on to such vital questions as what exactly is the Dragon Fist? I think this explains a lot about the movies, in all the wrong ways.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:38 am

Herms wrote:There's this great bit from the GT Perfect Files where they talk about the importance in deciding on the name of the movie, because apparently they picked the name first and then wrote the actual movie afterwards. It gives DBZ movie 13's title as an example, explaining that once they had decided on the name being "Dragon Fist Explosion! If Goku Doesn't Do It, Who Will?!", they could then move on to such vital questions as what exactly is the Dragon Fist? I think this explains a lot about the movies, in all the wrong ways.

WOW. o_O
That's an interesting format for setting up a storyline.
I mean I normally think up a basic plotline, then the title, then the summary, then the story itself; but to do the title first and then everything else?! That is bold indeed.

*Goes to look at the dbz movie titles on Daizex's guide*.

You know, they could honestly come up with any number of plots for practically all these films based on title alone.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:42 am

In the silver age of comics, it was common practice to draw a cover first. Then write a story around it.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:51 am

It's weird, because all the English titles of the movies mention the villain of the movie (well, most of them), but Japanese ones just mention 'explosive fights' or the number of Super Saiyans.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:00 am

Herms wrote:There's this great bit from the GT Perfect Files where they talk about the importance in deciding on the name of the movie, because apparently they picked the name first and then wrote the actual movie afterwards. It gives DBZ movie 13's title as an example, explaining that once they had decided on the name being "Dragon Fist Explosion! If Goku Doesn't Do It, Who Will?!", they could then move on to such vital questions as what exactly is the Dragon Fist? I think this explains a lot about the movies, in all the wrong ways.

0.o How is that possible? The titles are so vague... now I understand why most of the movies don't make any sense at all.

Seriously, it is just wrong.

sailorspazz · Post by **sailorspazz** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:57 pm

Herms wrote:There's this great bit from the GT Perfect Files where they talk about the importance in deciding on the name of the movie, because apparently they picked the name first and then wrote the actual movie afterwards.

....So they made the title of move four "Super Saiyan Son Gokuu", and then decided not to make him go Super Saiyan after giving it that title? What's up with that bullshit?

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:05 pm

They made him go what they thought would be Super Saiyan at the time. Turns out later on that Toriyama didn't share their opinion on how a Super Saiyan should look, so that movie's form was retconned into "False Super Saiyan".