What do you think would have been the best ending point?

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:54 pm

I can't recall any instance where Goku did what Gohan did.

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:07 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:I can't recall any instance where Goku did what Gohan did.

Goku drank the water that was poisonous to achieve greater power, and also got three years to train with Kami to achieve a power in par with Piccolo Jr.
Gohan got the Chou powerup and spent a year in the ROSAT to achieve a power inferior to Cell.
It was only because of his anger he got the SSJ2 in the first place.

Goku got beat up by Android 19, and when he was defenseless, he screamed "HELP MEEE!!!" when his energy was drained.
Gohan froze up once in the Saiya-jin saga, and then didn't want to fight Cell. But he never screamed for help from anyone. He never shouted "I don't want to die!".

Otherwise, they did the same in fights, their best.
Bullshit powerups aside, Gohan isn't such a bad character, even though he made some mistakes with his training.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:28 pm

I'm not talking about power-ups and stuff. I just meant that one situation, as Cell was powering up his Kamehameha, where Gohan was the only one who had a hope of doing anything to stop Cell, but he didn't. Goku never did that.

The closest I remember him coming was against monkey Vegeta, when he was completely crippled. But he still fought for as long as he possibly could.

And it was the only time Gohan did that too. And I think it will always feel out of character to me.

Just like when Trunks gave up against Perfect Cell and asked Cell to kill and get it over with. But that's another topic.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:37 pm

*The end of the battle with Freeza
*The end of the battle with Cell

I would have ended it at either of those two points.

Sanjiscool · Post by **Sanjiscool** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:46 pm

I think ending it with the Boo saga was fine, despite that story getting really out of hand.

I just wished Gohan wasn't pushed out of story like he was. He came back to fight Boo, was unbelievably strong, then Goku comes back again and Gohan is put on the shelf. Considering how Gohan started off in the arc, the ending wasn't good for him.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:53 pm

Yeah, I'd have like for Gohan to have a proper heroic victory like that. But I do think the ending with the Spirit Bomb is the best Goku ending it could have had, since the whole world joins in, and we get to see some of the old characters, and Mark gets a big role in the saving the day (plus he befriended Buu in the first place. Even Piccolo admitted he was a true champion).

As much as I don't like Kid Buu, the Spirit Bomb was, I think, possibly the best ending the Buu saga could have had, even if I would have liked Gohan to triumph by himself. And I really like the get together at the lookout afterwords, which is done without any words.

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:58 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:Yeah, I'd have like for Gohan to have a proper heroic victory like that. But I do think the ending with the Spirit Bomb is the best Goku ending it could have had, since the whole world joins in, and we get to see some of the old characters, and Mark gets a big role in the saving the day (plus he befriended Buu in the first place. Even Piccolo admitted he was a true champion).

As much as I don't like Kid Buu, the Spirit Bomb was, I think, possibly the best ending the Buu saga could have had, even if I would have liked Gohan to triumph by himself. And I really like the get together at the lookout afterwords, which is done without any words.

"Where were you, I was worried sick! *punchpunchpunchcryhug*"

hui43210 · Post by **hui43210** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:57 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote:
Scarz wrote:I would like to say a good ending point would have been the Cell Saga but then I remembered that Goku died in the end and I pretty much prefer a "Non-Goku-Death" ending. Although I see that a lot a people want Goku dead surprisingly.
Cuz he'z da troo villain of da sho not anyone else hes horrible!!!!111!!

*Ahem*
Am I the only one who actually thinks the Buu arcs ending was sufficient?
No. It sorta works for me, but I definitely would've changed a few things.

-Gohan, NOT GOKU, being the final hero.

-Gohan and Videl wedding saga, please. If Chichi and Goku got one, why can't they?

-No Uub. For god's sake, NO UUB!

Uubs okay... but I agree with everything here. Also for the Rocky debait I think we can all agree Rocky 4 is the best.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:14 pm

hui43210 wrote:Rocky 4 is the best.

DRAGOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

KKZ · Post by **KKZ** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:14 pm

DBZ ending with Buu is just fine. If it was just the Saiyan Saga with that fucking dumbass, cheesy Ocean dub followed by the boring as hell, snail-paced Freeza Saga (Made even worse by the accompaniment of FUNi's god awful dubbing at the time) the show wouldn't have even been a blip on my radar and I probably wouldn't have stuck around for the pretty good Saiyan Saga re-dub that would eventually come.

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:32 am

Amigo Ten wrote: And it was the only time Gohan did that too. And I think it will always feel out of character to me.

What about against Gotenks-Buu or against Recoome, where he gave his all, even when crippled and hurt?

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:35 am

KKZ wrote:fucking dumbass, cheesy Ocean dub followed by the boring as hell, snail-paced Freeza Saga (Made even worse by the accompaniment of FUNi's god awful dubbing at the time)

Haha, I am with you 100% of the way!

KKZ · Post by **KKZ** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:41 am

I should also mention that had it not been for the excellent Cell and Buu Sagas, I probably wouldn't have gotten into a bunch of other anime series (Unless I happened to watch Yu Yu Hakusho, which I only ever saw while also watching the parts of DBZ I actually enjoyed on Toonami).

Budokai23 · Post by **Budokai23** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:46 am

I think they should of ended it after Cell. Though the Buu arc was good, I would consider it about as good or maybe slightly better than GT.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:58 am

Wojak wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote: And it was the only time Gohan did that too. And I think it will always feel out of character to me.
What about against Gotenks-Buu or against Recoome, where he gave his all, even when crippled and hurt?

I meant it's the only time he gave up.

Daimo-Rukiri · Post by **Daimo-Rukiri** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:27 am

The best ending would have been with Super Goku transmitting themselves to Kaiosama's planet, both should have died there. That would have made the best ending, the hero dies and the earth lives on.

piccolo-san785 · Post by **piccolo-san785** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:47 am

After gohan defeated cell leading to an epilogue and bringing the series to a close

SaiyanBlood · Post by **SaiyanBlood** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:35 am

I like GT's ending best.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:00 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:That would have made the best ending, the hero dies and the earth lives on.

I agree, the Freeza Saga was the best ending.

A-dono · Post by **A-dono** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:10 pm

After the Cell arc would've been fine with me. And then maybe Toriyama could've written something like the Afterworld Tournament to close the series out.