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Gohan and Broli: Very similar but ...

Post by Anonymous Friend » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:42 pm

Well, maybe not very similar. They both seem timid when not fighting. They both have a character build that's supposed to lead up to them being very powerful and unstoppable (recent podcast email spoke of Gohan's buildup over the course of the series as a potentially unstoppable fighter, Broli being called the Legendary Super Saiyan).

I'm not sure if he's powered by anger, but Broli gets upset by Goku and goes into a rage and wipes the floor with everyone. Gohan gets angry and has a enormous rise in battle power.

Broli seems to be the one to actually live up to his hype. While Gohan does become very powerful, aside defeating Cell (which needed several pep talks from his papa in order to dowhich leads me to attribute it more to him than his son), he doesn't really accomplish anything battle wise. To be fair, though, he can not be defeated by water.
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:38 pm

To add to the similarities--and even though my addition is only an aesthetic one-- I'd even add that Brolli's hairstyle in his base form is kind of like a mesh of Gohan's longer haircut in the Cell arc, only with Trunks' style of bangs.
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Post by otakutrevan » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:28 pm

Good God you may be onto something. I have never noticed the similarites between broly (yes i used a y you damn elitist) and Gohan. This raises many questions.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:48 pm

otakutrevan wrote:Good God you may be onto something. I have never noticed the similarites between broly (yes i used a y you damn elitist) and Gohan. This raises many questions.
I don't think you have a firm grasp on the attitude of this forum. I know that it may be difficult to understand at first because of how strong the opinions of the members are here, but nobody's going to hold your naming convention or dub or choice against you. I had a difficult time adjusting at first but honestly, nobody really cares if you like the dub or not. The emphasis here is placed on the Japanese version because obviously its the purest form of the show we have. There's no denying that the dub muddled some stuff up, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't like it. There's going to be complaining about it here (a lot of it, over and over), but nobody thinks they're better than you if they complain about something you like. Trust me, I'm a fan of the dub too.

If anything is going to be held against you it's your terrible grammar and punctuation.

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Post by Hujio » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:05 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
otakutrevan wrote:Good God you may be onto something. I have never noticed the similarites between broly (yes i used a y you damn elitist) and Gohan. This raises many questions.
If anything is going to be held against you it's your terrible grammar and punctuation.
No, I'm going to hold the fact that he keeps using phrases like "elitist" and "DaizEX enthusiast" to demean everyone on the board, except himself. (Although, the spelling thing doesn't help either.) I don't care if he likes the dub. I don't even care that half the stuff he's talking about means nothing to me. I do care that he feels he's better than everyone else because we're all "damn elitists". Frankly I don't mind being an elitist, but when you use it as an insult toward me and this community, I take umbrage with that! Don't you find it a tad ironic how you use "elitist" as an insult to set yourself apart as better than everyone else? If you only joined the forum to bash people, then I hope you can find the way out very quickly, because this will not end well for anyone. Either shape up, or ship out!
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Post by otakutrevan » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:11 am

ok. understandable.

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Post by obiwan23s » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:13 am

I think the similarities raised in this thread have some weight but the way I see it, the reason behind the anger-fueled power increases of the two are different. Broly's stems exclusively from Kakarrot's mere presence or perhaps even just his voice. Gohan's hidden power comes out in situations where he or someone else (both against Raditz and Vegeta when they were about to kill his father, against Nappa after he killed Piccolo, etc) are threatened. I guess the one that stands out the most is when Cell stamps out #16. That was close to a Broly-style rage explosion, but Gohan kept his cool while Broly loses his when he flips out.

Just my observations, but good comparison.

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Post by Hujio » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:18 am

obiwan23s wrote:I seemed to take the "elitist" comment as a sort of a joke or sarcasm, but things can be interpreted myriad ways on a forum so to each his own.
Well, if that's the case, then I'm going to start inserting "that's right, you damn non-elitists" in all my posts. You see what I mean? If you don't want anyone to be offended, then don't say it. But if we agree that this will be the end of this, then I have no other qualms.
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Post by otakutrevan » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:28 am

Hujio wrote:
obiwan23s wrote:I seemed to take the "elitist" comment as a sort of a joke or sarcasm, but things can be interpreted myriad ways on a forum so to each his own.
Well, if that's the case, then I'm going to start inserting "that's right, you damn non-elitists" in all my posts. You see what I mean? If you don't want anyone to be offended, then don't say it. But if we agree that this will be the end of this, then I have no other qualms.
i can respect that.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:29 am

otakutrevan wrote:i can respect that.
otakutrevan wrote:ok. understandable.
Obviously you don't because you're still not typing properly.

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Post by otakutrevan » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:43 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
otakutrevan wrote:i can respect that.
otakutrevan wrote:ok. understandable.
Obviously you don't because you're still not typing properly.
That was the elitism I spoke of. lawl

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Post by Herms » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:45 am

That’s not elitism, that’s typing (properly).
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Post by Kaboom » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:47 am

otakutrevan, please fix your grammar and your attitude.
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Post by SSj_Rambo » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:51 am

otakutrevan wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:
otakutrevan wrote:i can respect that.
otakutrevan wrote:ok. understandable.
Obviously you don't because you're still not typing properly.
That was the elitism I spoke of. lawl
That's not a matter of elitism, its simply annoyance at you saying you respect someone's nudge towards typing properly (among other things), and disregarding it while acknowledging respect for the views, and again shortly after. Proper typing isn't "enforced" because we consider ouselves a group of elite poets, it's a rule that we all agreed to.

EDIT: Okay, my post may be a slight bit of flogging-a-dead-horse, and I hope it doesn't come across as hostile.

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:23 am

I can absolutely see where the comparisons are applicable, but in the end...Gohan's still got more personality than Broli... :wink:
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:37 am

JulieYBM wrote:I can absolutely see where the comparisons are applicable, but in the end...Gohan's still got more personality than Broli... :wink:
Every character has more personality than Broly.

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Post by caejones » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:54 am

penguintruth wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:I can absolutely see where the comparisons are applicable, but in the end...Gohan's still got more personality than Broli... :wink:
Every character has more personality than Broly.

Farmer with the shotgun. Appule. Nikki.
I dunno, what qualifies as personality?

Farmer with a shotgun: *Farms* *sees something crash in his field* *goes to check it out* *Shoots Raditz* *dies*.
Broly: *Annoyed by Goku* *Stabbed and left for dead by King Vegeta* *Left to survive a planetary explosion all by his infant self. And protect his father, too* *Then forced to control said power against his will* *Then sees the one being from pre explosia that he recognizes just because he was so bloody annoying* *kills stuff*.
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Post by Amigo Ten » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:30 am

Isn't Broli only timid because of that mind control device? Without it he's just permanently mental, right?

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Post by DNA » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:19 am

Honestly I always like Broly, before he actually transformed into the so called Legendary Super Saiyan. I think he's quite interesting and mysterious, and then he gets ruined and becomes nothing more than an insane god of destruction. I use god here because I'm sure that the Saiyans see him more as some sort of deity than a normal person, just look at Vegeta's reaction. If he sounded and acted more godly in his Legendary form, it would have been amazing. Example of how he acts godly: the way he powers up in the lake in the second movie. To me he always looked kinda like what a Mayan deity would look like. Plus he uses wrestling moves.

But I digress, I do see where you're coming from, but I think everything is just a coincidence between Broly and Gohan.

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