I thought the same thing. Even though the music was dramatic, I thought it would have been just as dramatic to leave out the music like in Z. That's Kai for you....kenisu3000 wrote:Now that I've finally seen the episode, I can say:
Wha... music playing during Gohan's neck-breaker?!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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Well, in the English dub of DBZ, they'd probably have done the same thing. I can't recall if they actually did, though, so don't hold me to it.Shiyonasan wrote:I thought the same thing. Even though the music was dramatic, I thought it would have been just as dramatic to leave out the music like in Z. That's Kai for you....kenisu3000 wrote:Now that I've finally seen the episode, I can say:
Wha... music playing during Gohan's neck-breaker?!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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I guess there's no official explanation for this, but the French manga mentions that when turning Super Saiyan the first time, Goku's language suddenly switch from a usually childish way to speak which reflects his kindness to much more adult talk.Son Wukong wrote:Only now I begin to think how Masako Nozawa will do during the SSJ transformation. Maybe this time there won't be a mysterious scream?
My theory is that they were initially going to reflect that in the anime by changing his voice with an actual male voice actor when he turned Super Saiyan (similarly to a character in a series that one of my friends liked, named Yu-gi-oh! - not sure about the spelling - who has his voice changing to a more adult voice when he changes into his "super form").
The episode ended with that new voice just for the scream. Then they probably decided not to keep up with that when it was time to dub the following episode. That's just a theory, but that's the only logical explanation I can think about. Meaning this time, there probably won't be any mysterious scream.
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To be honest, that same idea has crossed my mind several times. But as you suggested yourself, there is no concrete proof for it…I think.
To be honest, that same idea has crossed my mind several times. But as you suggested yourself, there is no concrete proof for it…I think.
I actually thought it fitted in just great.kenisu3000 wrote:Now that I've finally seen the episode, I can say:
Wha... music playing during Gohan's neck-breaker?!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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You seem to have forgotten that Goku talked with Gohan at the end of the episode, informing him that Piccolo was still alive and needed to be taken to the ship.Cold Skin wrote:The episode ended with that new voice just for the scream. Then they probably decided not to keep up with that when it was time to dub the following episode. That's just a theory, but that's the only logical explanation I can think about. Meaning this time, there probably won't be any mysterious scream.
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Yeah, Metalwario64 is right. Nozawa Masako is voicing Goku at the end of the episode when he speaks to Gohan and tells him to take Piccolo back to the ship. I really don't think they ever intended to have anyone but Nozawa voice Goku, even if he was Super Saiyan. I'd wager that they simply wanted a more manly yell than what Nozawa could provide. I mean, that was an epic moment in the series, where Goku literally unleashed the beast.Metalwario64 wrote:You seem to have forgotten that Goku talked with Gohan at the end of the episode, informing him that Piccolo was still alive and needed to be taken to the ship.Cold Skin wrote:The episode ended with that new voice just for the scream. Then they probably decided not to keep up with that when it was time to dub the following episode. That's just a theory, but that's the only logical explanation I can think about. Meaning this time, there probably won't be any mysterious scream.
Oh, and speaking of that "new voice" for Goku's scream, it's actually not a new voice at all. If you're familiar with the Japanese side of the show, you might recognize it's actually Hori Hideyuki screaming. You'll better know him as the voice of none other than, Ginyu. Oh, the irony. I always found it funny that they let Ginyu voice Goku just one last time.
Oh, that is quite nice, but where have that been stated?Hujio wrote:Yeah, Metalwario64 is right. Nozawa Masako is voicing Goku at the end of the episode when he speaks to Gohan and tells him to take Piccolo back to the ship. I really don't think they ever intended to have anyone but Nozawa voice Goku, even if he was Super Saiyan. I'd wager that they simply wanted a more manly yell than what Nozawa could provide. I mean, that was an epic moment in the series, where Goku literally unleashed the beast.Metalwario64 wrote:You seem to have forgotten that Goku talked with Gohan at the end of the episode, informing him that Piccolo was still alive and needed to be taken to the ship.Cold Skin wrote:The episode ended with that new voice just for the scream. Then they probably decided not to keep up with that when it was time to dub the following episode. That's just a theory, but that's the only logical explanation I can think about. Meaning this time, there probably won't be any mysterious scream.
Oh, and speaking of that "new voice" for Goku's scream, it's actually not a new voice at all. If you're familiar with the Japanese side of the show, you might recognize it's actually Hori Hideyuki screaming. You'll better know him as the voice of none other than, Ginyu. Oh, the irony. I always found it funny that they let Ginyu voice Goku just one last time.
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If you mean where was this officially stated, it never was. This is just one of those things that came about because fans were very familiar with specific seiyuu's voices. It's the same reason we know Numata Yuusuke provided the Saibaiman and Cell Junior voices/noises. They're never credited, but fans that are very familiar with their voices recognize them. I mean, you don't necessarily have to believe me, but in most circles it is generally accepted, especially on most Japanese fan sites.alakazam^ wrote:Oh, that is quite nice, but where have that been stated?
Oh, my bad! I haven't seen this for years so my memory tricks me sometimes! I didn't remember him talking at the end of the episode! Then my sweet theory isn't worth much of anything in the end, that happens sometimes!Hujio wrote:Yeah, Metalwario64 is right. Nozawa Masako is voicing Goku at the end of the episode when he speaks to Gohan and tells him to take Piccolo back to the ship. I really don't think they ever intended to have anyone but Nozawa voice Goku, even if he was Super Saiyan. I'd wager that they simply wanted a more manly yell than what Nozawa could provide. I mean, that was an epic moment in the series, where Goku literally unleashed the beast.Metalwario64 wrote:You seem to have forgotten that Goku talked with Gohan at the end of the episode, informing him that Piccolo was still alive and needed to be taken to the ship.Cold Skin wrote:The episode ended with that new voice just for the scream. Then they probably decided not to keep up with that when it was time to dub the following episode. That's just a theory, but that's the only logical explanation I can think about. Meaning this time, there probably won't be any mysterious scream.
Oh, and speaking of that "new voice" for Goku's scream, it's actually not a new voice at all. If you're familiar with the Japanese side of the show, you might recognize it's actually Hori Hideyuki screaming. You'll better know him as the voice of none other than, Ginyu. Oh, the irony. I always found it funny that they let Ginyu voice Goku just one last time.
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I don't agree, when I thought that it should be pitch down of actual Nozawa's scream, I made a test with my sound editing software and since I didn't match perfectly the same deep, I reverted that scream from episode back to Nozawa and for comparison used pitch down on Nozawa's SSJ3 scream performance.....Hujio wrote:If you mean where was this officially stated, it never was. This is just one of those things that came about because fans were very familiar with specific seiyuu's voices. It's the same reason we know Numata Yuusuke provided the Saibaiman and Cell Junior voices/noises. They're never credited, but fans that are very familiar with their voices recognize them. I mean, you don't necessarily have to believe me, but in most circles it is generally accepted, especially on most Japanese fan sites.alakazam^ wrote:Oh, that is quite nice, but where have that been stated?
It's actually Nozawa what I can say, pitched down.
But nobody paid much attention to that thread, so everybody likes Ginyu better as SSJ Goku
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