"My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:27 pm

VegettoEX wrote:*snip*
Haha, yep. Episode 4 is the last episode I have on a fansub, and it's the only time I ever saw one of the split previews, which I thought was really cool!

Anyway, thanks for checking that out for me. I guess GT didn't make the flip after all unless it happened really late in the series.
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Hujio » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:17 pm

VegettoEX wrote:*snip*
Thanks for the info man, I really appreciate it. We don't need any more misinformation out there, so I guess I'll have to change that.
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by GreggMays64 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:05 pm

Why are you all getting the Dragonboxes? Lets watch the Orange Bricks. After all, it is Dragonball Z the way as it was meant to be seen.

I have proof.

Listen somewhere 1:30, and they clearly say that it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Vh0wCa0Os

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:25 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
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The Tori-bot wrote:I stopped reading right here. There is nothing wrong with the Dragon Boxes. You hear me? NOTHING.

*huggles Dragon Boxes*
Except, you know, possibly the colors. Whatever happened to that debate?
A few people, myself included, engaged kei17 in a debate about it. He...didn't really give anything of substance, to me, to support his claim. Then he didn't post about it again. If you want to trust his views, then Toei made the entire series on 35mm film then downprinted it to 16mm and destroyed the 35mm masters (except a small portion of the Freeza arc), because apparently they dug wasting money. As a matter of fact, he stated all anime was done on 35mm at some point (despite the fact that I couldn't find anything or anyone that shared this view). A different master was then sent to every television station, meaning no two masters would be exactly the same in terms of color fidelity, however his EP VHS recordings that were recorded with unknown equipment/configurations/etc. and stored under unknown conditions for 20 years are his proof that the broadcast looked different and superior compared to the DragonBoxes.

Oh, and he emailed Toei once and they replied in a vague manner about the masters not being in perfect shape. Nevermind that the Japanese culture tends to be self-deprecating and they could have meant damned near anything by that. :P

So...yeah. Keep in mind that in 10 years+ of online fandom, he's the only person to ever have said any of the above. And it's not like we don't have people from all over the world, Japan included.
I Gotta agree with you, I even have the Vegeta fight on VHS(Fuji recording) and the colors are degraded, it basically looks like the master funi got.
Unless anyone had put the original broadcast onto laserdisk or digitized it we'll never know how the original broadcast looked, I'm sure the brightness would be about the same as his video showed it was quite dark..

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Daniel_Gohan » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:04 pm

I always thought that this one was the year-end special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzrw1-5Y3Zc

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Hujio » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:58 pm

Daniel_Gohan wrote:I always thought that this one was the year-end special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzrw1-5Y3Zc
That's the Cell Games recap that aired right before the 25th Budoukai. It basically gives an overview of the Cell Games, and then Goku fills in Goten and Gohan about what he's been doing in the afterlife (Ano Yo-ichi Budoukai). I still haven't been able to track down the exact date it aired though. This is something I will be adding to the feature at some point.

EDIT: Well actually, I'm going to look into it because it appears they may both apart of the year-end special... So I'll get back to you on that.
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:44 am

Daniel_Gohan wrote:I always thought that this one was the year-end special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzrw1-5Y3Zc
I'm pretty sure that wasn't on the Dragon Boxes. Shame though.

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat May 01, 2010 4:35 am

I just remembered something. This is getting a bit into GT box territory, but, you know how the preview in DBZ 291 for GT is moved to the GT set instead of the Z set? Well, I know that at least episode 290 (maybe 289 as well, but I can't remember for sure) did a split preview as well, a la the movies, with half being the next Z episode, and the other half being GT. Did those survive anywhere?
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by SSj_Rambo » Sun May 02, 2010 2:46 am

RoarkVegeta wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4srneeP3 ... re=related Here's some more!
Yeah, I just found those the other night. So in terms of movie previews (assuming Mike will rip Hujio a copy of the 10th Anniversary preview from his fansubs), it seems there are nine previews we don't have, and these are the episodes they would be included with (I only went three episodes back, but there's a chance they started airing more than three weeks before release):

DB Movie 01 -- M01
DB eps 041, 042, 043

DB Movie 02 -- M02
DB eps 068, 069, 070

DB Movie 03 -- M03
DB eps 116, 117, 118

DBZ Movie 01 -- M04
DBZ eps 009, 010, 011

DBZ Movie 03 -- M06
DBZ eps 052, 053, 054

DBZ Movie 05 -- M08
DBZ eps 094, 095, 096

DBZ Movie 09 -- M12
DBZ eps 190, 191, 192

DBZ Movie 11 -- M14
DBZ eps 230, 231, 232

DBZ Movie 12 -- M15
DBZ eps 256, 257, 258

So if anyone has fansubs...

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by DNA » Sun May 02, 2010 6:22 am

RoarkVegeta wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4srneeP3 ... re=related Here's some more!
Wait what the fuck? This video has stuff that belongs to ABGroup, hence they blocked my country from watching it? What! The! Fuck!?

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Mon May 03, 2010 6:33 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I'm pretty sure that wasn't on the Dragon Boxes. Shame though.
Tsk tsk. It was never remastered since then. Good work, the rare videos you guys posted was success. Keep up the good job!

I wish it'll be shown on the anime conventions like Otakon 2010.
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Tue May 04, 2010 5:55 am

I already know Dragon Box isn't perfect when I was already read it's full specification.if you wanna call it "perfect" they should add a lot more stuff like multiple Dub(Japan,English and a lot more others),Multiple Sub(Japan,English and a lot more others),a lot of other countries DB,Z,GT commercials,Trailers(really a lot of them),Dragon Book in English(because English is the most well known language in the world) with little Japanese.so Dragon Box is far from "perfect",it's just(probably) the most spectacular DragonBall release forever.

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Metalwario64 » Tue May 04, 2010 5:59 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Dragon Book in English
Huh? You mean like on FUNimation's release? :?
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Tue May 04, 2010 6:03 am

Metalwario64 wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Dragon Book in English
Huh? You mean like on FUNimation's release? :?
Yeah but with no censoring.

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by jda95 » Tue May 04, 2010 6:30 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Dragon Book in English
Huh? You mean like on FUNimation's release? :?
Yeah but with no censoring.
I thought the US Books were uncensored. What did they change?

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Metalwario64 » Tue May 04, 2010 6:33 am

jda95 wrote: I thought the US Books were uncensored. What did they change?
Was it that one line about Roshi's dream of [censored] with the ladies?
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by jda95 » Tue May 04, 2010 6:41 am

Metalwario64 wrote:
jda95 wrote: I thought the US Books were uncensored. What did they change?
Was it that one line about Roshi's dream of [censored] with the ladies?
Is that a direct quote? Seems like a case of "missing the forest for the tree". I mean, it doesn't take an genius to work out that, hey, Muten Roshi is a pervert.

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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Tue May 04, 2010 7:33 am

Yeah I want the Japanese Dragon Book have English translation and little Japanese like Funi have.so it's the same as Japan Dragon Book but inside,it's the same as Funi Dragon Book(but without Roshi's censoring stuff and others like that).
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Re: "My Dragon Box Isn't Perfect?"

Post by VegettoEX » Tue May 04, 2010 8:51 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Alright maybe like Funi does but it's like the Japanese book version bigger and taller
W... what...?! This is another post that I absolutely can not comprehend what-so-ever. Are you simply saying that the Japanese Dragonbook volumes are bigger than the FUNimation equivalents? Yes. Yes, they are!

I'm sorry, but is English your native language? I'm guessing not. We need to decide how/if we are going to mark up folks who don't natively speak English natively -- we tend to go easier on them, but then we get yelled at by suburban American teenagers who can't type properly and we have to ask if they speak the language... not that I care... ^_~.

But yeah. We need to have posts that people can actually read and understand.
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