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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by DNA » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:57 pm

Always took them to be asexual until proven wrong. Thing is, when a character is asexual, it tends to default to "male"; like all the namekians, Cell, etc. Chilled could still be asexual "female" type. I dunno...

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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by kaialone » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:00 pm

Thank you herms for the translations :D !

I really like Chilled, I dont know why I just do.
And I think we all know what Bardock will finally do next issue.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:27 pm

kaialone wrote:Thank you herms for the translations :D !

I really like Chilled, I dont know why I just do.
And I think we all know what Bardock will finally do next issue.
Despite slightly disappointing me with the 80's style swimsuit design, Chilled is rather "cute" in a way, and the playful attitude is rather fun. It's like Fat Buu and Freeza mixed. lol But I'm hoping Ooishi doesn't rush this and make Bardock transform like two pages from the end, wrap everything up in a few seconds. I'd like to see him as a Super Saiyan for more than a few panels. lol

Oh, and yeah, thanks Herms. You were speedy this time, and I appreciate that. lol

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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by Fox666 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:28 pm

Herms wrote:
Luke Groundwalker wrote:Ah so Chilled is just a kid.
Not necessarily, he just talks like one. Babidi does too, and he's millions of years old.
Didn't Freeza also talk like a child sometimes, i.e. when refering to Cold?

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Post by Z-Dragon » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:22 pm

Anyone think how strong Chilled is? I think that he's more or less weaker than Frieza's first form, but stronger than Ginyu.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:35 pm

Z-Dragon wrote:Anyone think how strong Chilled is? I think that he's more or less weaker than Freeza's first form, but stronger than Ginyu.
Well, Bardock was around 10,000 by the end of his TV special and the Super Saiyan form is a 50x multiplier, so between 10,000 and 500,000...
(Bardock probably got a near death boost after being healed by Ipana, but we have no idea what he would be increased to, so I'll stick with that range.)
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by Fox666 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:52 pm

I am aimed to believe Chilled won't be anywere close to Freeza in power and the author was carefull to not include character at such a level, since soldiers like Vegeta or Ginyu Tokusentai looked over themselves as the mightiest elite of the universe.

Bardock was close to 10,000 at the end of the TV special and may be slight more than that now. Considering he managed to punch Chilled on the face and cause a minor injury, I would expect Chilled to have a battle power of less than 20,000.
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:20 pm

Fox666 wrote:I am aimed to believe Chilled won't be anywere close to Freeza in power and the author was carefull to not include character at such a level, since soldiers like Vegeta or Ginyu Tokusentai looked over themselves as the mightiest elite of the universe.

Bardock was close to 10,000 at the end of the TV special and may be slight more than that now, considering he managed to punch Chilled on the face and cause a minor injry, I would expect Chilled to have a battle power of less than 20,000.
That would result in overkill when Bardock transforms. Don't forget this is supposed to be set in the past, and if Bardock really is supposed to be THE Legendary Super Saiyan, then its 1000 years in the past. Since I doubt most of the manga's characters even existed back then, what does it matter if there is someone near Freeza's level? Especially if Bardock ends up killing 'em, which I kind of doubt will happen.
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by Herms » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:53 pm

Fox666 wrote:Didn't Freeza also talk like a child sometimes, i.e. when refering to Cold?
Yeah, basically his forms go like this:
1st Form: polite to very polite
2nd Form: casual masculine (more or less how Piccolo or Vegeta talk)
3rd Form: polite again
4th Form: starts out child-like and gets more and more masculine and aggressive as the tide turns against him
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That would result in overkill when Bardock transforms.
That's pretty much what I expect to happen. There's only 15 pages to go, so they can't really have much of a huge, drawn-out battle.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:02 pm

Herms wrote:That's pretty much what I expect to happen. There's only 15 pages to go, so they can't really have much of a huge, drawn-out battle.
Well, I'm expecting Bardock to transform and just start kicking ass without taking names, but not by that big of a number gap. I know it doesn't really matter from a story standpoint since Bardock only need to be weaker than Chilled before transforming, and stronger afterward. Though Chilled being at 20,000 would truly be overkill if Bardock jumps from around 10,000 to 500,000. The same situation could happen with Chilled at 250,000 and just say Bardock caught the runt by surprise that someone would actually charge him with the first hit (and Bardock's only hit of the fight so far).
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:16 pm

So this hints that Bardock is goingg to be the Super Saiyan from the legent? Great!
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by MCDaveG » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:16 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So this hints that Bardock is goingg to be the Super Saiyan from the legent? Great!
I dunno, we already have Brolli on this position don't we? But if they wanna create more and more mess, OKAY!! :lol:
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by DNA » Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:48 pm

Well, doesn't the original legend say the original super saiyan ends up killing himself in a raw display of power? Or something like that.

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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by Herms » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:57 pm

DNA wrote:Well, doesn't the original legend say the original super saiyan ends up killing himself in a raw display of power? Or something like that.
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by DNA » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:10 pm

Herms wrote:
DNA wrote:Well, doesn't the original legend say the original super saiyan ends up killing himself in a raw display of power? Or something like that.
No,that's just a dub line.
Oh I see, so in the original is just something along the lines of every thousand years a super saiyan appears, and that's about it, right?

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Post by Herms » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:49 pm

DNA wrote:Oh I see, so in the original is just something along the lines of every thousand years a super saiyan appears, and that's about it, right?
Pretty much. And he's supposed to be the strongest in the universe, and love destruction and slaughter. That's about it.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:37 am

WTF?! There are already French and Portuguese scanlations, but still not English? I wish I could do it myself... :cry:
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:45 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:WTF?! There are already French and Portuguese scanlations, but still not English? I wish I could do it myself... :cry:
Why can't you? Its not hard to do, just tedious, hence why I stopped. I have better, more productive things to waste my time on. Herms did give us a translation, the pages have been scanned, and every computer comes with at least basic MSPaint style software. Saying you can't do it it nothing more than an excuse, as the means to tackle the task are more than available to you.

Not trying to sound like an ass, but given enough time, ANYONE could do it since all the materials are provided.
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by Michsi » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:56 am

Well to have the right programms for something like this is probably the hardest part. I doubt anybody would want to use Paint for this job and not everybody can use Photoshop (or whatever other tools are out there)

Anyway, the story in unfolding pretty much as I (and probably everyone else) expected and mostly following this for the art. Which, looking at the LQ scans, I think has improved a lot. But she's still not there. Movement is still to rigid in some places.

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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by rereboy » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:19 am

I've already done english scanlations. PM me those who would like to have it.

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