Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

[Rocketman]

It's 300 million degrees C. How long does it need to last (again, the heart of the Sun is 'only' 16 mil).

[Michsi]

Which also means that nobody defends against it. Whatever ki powers they have, nearly all the characters are flesh and bone. The main one that isn't, Buu, relies completely on his regeneration and the power of an H-bomb would rip his very atoms apart.

You can't realy on that knowledge withtout knowing what the limit of Buu's regeneration is. It is a creature of magic, build to be near indestructible and destroyed by something that could qualify as magic, what with the seeking out evil bit and all that.

[Kaboom]

It's 300 million degrees C. How long does it need to last (again, the heart of the Sun is 'only' 16 mil).

... And the sun is what DB characters use to finish off the badguys when their own power isn't enough!

[Bussani]

DBZ characters can take what they dish out.

I'm not quite sure about that. I mean, it's true to an extent, but that means that if two people had identical strength and one shot their strongest attack at the other, they wouldn't be hurt by it. It doesn't seem to work that way. I think their strongest attacks faaar outweigh their physical durability under normal circumstances, particularly in later parts of the series where those attacks have grown to absurd levels.

The radiation may be a problem though...

Yeah, definitely. I mean, you could argue that ki could be used to shield them from it--and it probably could, because your ki can do anything if you put your mind to it--but if anyone had that sort of trick up their sleeve, using their ki to render themselves invisible would be a snap. Now that would be a neat technique, but obviously one that never appears in the show. I also have to wonder if they'd be able to breathe inside a nuclear explosion.

[mysticboy]

DBZ characters can take what they dish out.

I'm not quite sure about that. I mean, it's true to an extent, but that means that if two people had identical strength and one shot their strongest attack at the other, they wouldn't be hurt by it. It doesn't seem to work that way. I think their strongest attacks faaar outweigh their physical durability under normal circumstances, particularly in later parts of the series where those attacks have grown to absurd levels.

I'm saying they can survive attacks close to their power level. If two people with the exact same power level one shot each other, both will get hurt, they just won't die. I didn't mean "take" in the sense of tanking something, but in the sense of surviving a blow.


I wonder if Cell and Freeza can take radiation.

The radiation may be a problem though...

Yeah, definitely. I mean, you could argue that ki could be used to shield them from it--and it probably could, because your ki can do anything if you put your mind to it--but if anyone had that sort of trick up their sleeve, using their ki to render themselves invisible would be a snap. Now that would be a neat technique, but obviously one that never appears in the show. I also have to wonder if they'd be able to breathe inside a nuclear explosion.

A ki shield is probably the best option. I doubt going invisible (hell, even intangible) would help much since radiation effects you at a molecular level.

[Ringworm128]

A nuclear bomb would kill anybody from Dragonball/Z/GT.

Wasn't it said somewhere that Piccolo-Daimao had the power of a nuclear bomb? Also keeping in mind that they could dodge the bomb.

[AgitoZ]

Wasn't it said somewhere that Piccolo-Daimao had the power of a nuclear bomb? Also keeping in mind that they could dodge the bomb.

Even if something like that was said(I don't recall, nor care), it says nothing about his abilities to withstand one.

[mysticboy]

Great Ape Kid Goku vs Godzilla.

[Ringworm128]

Great Ape Kid Goku vs Godzilla.

I am going have to go with Godzilla but if it was Vegeta or Gohan that would be a interesting fight.

[mysticboy]

Great Ape Kid Goku vs Godzilla.

I am going have to go with Godzilla but if it was Vegeta or Gohan that would be a interesting fight.

Great Ape Gohan then?

[Bussani]

I'm saying they can survive attacks close to their power level. If two people with the exact same power level one shot each other, both will get hurt, they just won't die. I didn't mean "take" in the sense of tanking something, but in the sense of surviving a blow.

Fair enough, but I'm not sure I agree with the not dying part. Cell and Goku were at about the same level at the time of the warp Kamehameha, but it still would have killed him if he wasn't...well...Cell. It's probably possible to survive one of those attacks if you prepare yourself for it properly, but deflecting them with a large attack of your own seems to be easier.

I doubt going invisible (hell, even intangible) would help much since radiation effects you at a molecular level.

What I meant was that visible light is radiation--the same form of radiation as x-rays and gamma rays, in fact. If you can shield yourself from x-rays and gamma rays, you should be able to shield yourself from the visible spectrum as well.

[Rocketman]

Wasn't it said somewhere that Piccolo-Daimao had the power of a nuclear bomb? Also keeping in mind that they could dodge the bomb.

"Dodging" the bomb (which I assume means flying or teleporting out of range) says nothing about surviving it.

I figure everybody's so puffed up on their own power in DBZ they'd try to tank the blast like they catch bullets anyway.

[FNF]

Young Piccolo Daimao is said to have the power of a small nuclear bomb;

He has become even more powerful now that he has his youth restored. Easily capable of blowing away a city, his power rivals that of a small nuclear bomb.

@Oozaru Kid Goku vs Godzilla, I think GAWWDZIRRA has this unless it is 21st Budokai Oozaru Goku.

[Bussani]

Young Piccolo Daimao is said to have the power of a small nuclear bomb

Even if he could release a shockwave as powerful as one from a nuclear blast, that doesn't account for the heat and various other forms of radiation you get from an actual nuclear bomb. Dragon Ball characters could probably survive the force of the blast itself if they braced themselves for it (and probably have survived forces of that magnitude at one point or another); it's everything else I have to wonder about.

[AgitoZ]

Great Ape Kid Goku vs Godzilla.

I am going have to go with Godzilla but if it was Vegeta or Gohan that would be a interesting fight.

Great Ape Gohan then?

Considering his size and abilities, such as his healing factor, no Oozaru could beat big-G.

[mysticboy]

Considering his size and abilities, such as his healing factor, no Oozaru could beat big-G.

Not even Baby?

[Hellspawn28]

Great Ape Kid Goku vs Godzilla.

This should be fun since I'm bigger fan of Godzilla than I am of Dragon Ball. It depends on which Godzilla that we are using? I think Oozaru Goku when he first transform as a Oozaru will likely lose to any Godzilla unless it's the 1954 Godzilla or the 1998 American Godzilla. 21st Tenkaichi Budokai Oozaru Goku is bit stronger, he might beat few of the Millennium era Godzilla's but I think the Showa Godzilla and Heisei Godzilla would win.

If it's Oozaru Gohan then I think it could either way since I remember Oozaru Gohan was able blast apart mountains and the Heisei Godzilla survived Birth Island's destruction, shattered the Earth's tectonic plates while battling Battra under water from what I can remember and went through molten earth and survive without a scratch. Oozaru Vegeta should win due to speed and having more fire power (Since he could destroy planets) but I think Golden Oozaru is over kill.

[AgitoZ]

Oozaru Vegeta should win due to speed and having more fire power (Since he could destroy planets)

Yeah, but Godzilla's got way better durability, and I don't how long Vegeta's going to last against him.

Not even Baby?

...but I think Golden Oozaru is over kill.

This should be fun since I'm bigger fan of Godzilla than I am of Dragon Ball.

And you dare to mention Zilla? Your story is sounding awfully sketchy.

[mysticboy]

Ok, fair explanation.

[Michsi]

While it's been a while since I saw a Godzilla movie, I remember humans harming him to some extent. One Oozaru was supposed to wipe out an entire planet.