FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

[AgitoZ]

Darkness can easily be altered by changing the brightness if people feel that way. And yes the coloring is subjective although I'd bet most neutrals would say 1.1 has better coloring (at least in terms of accuracy).

That won't change the darkness found in the masters FUNi has for the Raditz episodes anyways. So, no matter what, the Levels can't have the best colors, as there is always be a better source.

[Perfect]

Thanks for screenshots - It always strikes me how much better Piccolo looks on 1.1 compared to on the Dragon Boxes. Looks more like a Namek - In the originals he always had that sort of green complexion , the same green as King Piccolo and Kami - for some reason though he become a lighter green in the dragon boxes. The skin coloring also looks perfect on the levels, clearly too pinkish on the others.

Piccolo on the Levels looks a bit too dark-ish, perfect colours? It's subjective.

Darkness can easily be altered by changing the brightness if people feel that way. And yes the coloring is subjective although I'd bet most neutrals would say 1.1 has better coloring (at least in terms of accuracy).

Dunno, Raditz has a little too much of a yellow pigment if you ask me.

[funrush]

Kinda. Apparently one of the directors approved the color scheme. What I want to know is, who is this director?

[Ringworm128]

Kinda. Apparently one of the directors approved the color scheme. What I want to know is, who is this director?

Steve Franko?

[Pokewhiz7]

Daisuke Nishio.
W007, 1000.

[MarcFBR]

Kinda. Apparently one of the directors approved the color scheme. What I want to know is, who is this director?

I honestly always just assume that whenever 'director approved' is mentioned for DBZ that they mean Chris Sabat.

I have no evidence of it, but it's the closest I can figure.

[DemonRin]

Here's a bunch of comparisons I made: the Dragonboxes were upscaled to 1440x1080 in Photoshop, and pillarboxes were added for easier comparing the Blu-ray. The US Dragonbox shots were shifted up 11 pixels to match the frame positioning of the JPN release. All shots lossless PNG.

Level 1.1 Blu-ray | JPN Dragonbox | US Dragonbox

This cinches it for me, I don't want to waste money on these levels.

Yes, FUNimation did a bang-up job this time, and the remastering looks top-notch compared to any of their previous efforts. I see no real problems with this release from the standpoint of someone wanting to purchase Dragon Ball for the first time.

But I see too many things I don't like in them for me to want to go out and spend money on them myself after buying the DBoxes. And here's why. Look at Piccolo in this shot. His purple clothes have 3 levels of shading on both Dragon Box shots. They only have 2 levels of shading on the Level shot. FUNi did an absolutely spectacular job on the restoration this time, but FUNi's old masters just aren't that good quality. They can only get so much out of them. Plus, the grain looks FAR worse on the Blu-rays to me. Add that to the fact that, yes, the lines are sharper, but I'm not seeing the same Night-and-day difference in the level of clarity and additional detail that I saw on the Yu Yu Hakusho Blus, and I just don't think this warrants a pick up.

Anyone who hasn't gotten the DBoxes, or who absolutely needs the Faulconer score tho? You guys finally have a worthwhile release to get yourselves.

[funrush]

FUNi did an absolutely spectacular job on the restoration this time, but FUNi's old masters just aren't that good quality. They can only get so much out of them. Plus, the grain looks FAR worse on the Blu-rays to me.

I do agree with this part. Imagine how good these could be if they had Toei's original masters.

[KiddoCabbusses]

But I see too many things I don't like in them for me to want to go out and spend money on them myself after buying the DBoxes. And here's why. Look at Piccolo in this shot. His purple clothes have 3 levels of shading on both Dragon Box shots. They only have 2 levels of shading on the Level shot.

I can see all three levels of shading on his pants in every shot, if that's what you're referring to.

Mind, it's a heck of a lot darker, but "harder to see" doesn't mean it's completely gone, like what could be said for some of FUNi's earlier remastering attempts.

What's more bothersome is how the contrast makes Piccolo's skin have yellow-green lights and jungle green darks. That's just not consistent.

[Craddle]

But I see too many things I don't like in them for me to want to go out and spend money on them myself after buying the DBoxes. And here's why. Look at Piccolo in this shot. His purple clothes have 3 levels of shading on both Dragon Box shots. They only have 2 levels of shading on the Level shot.

I can see all three levels of shading on his pants in every shot, if that's what you're referring to.

I was about to say the same thing.

[Krycek7o2]

Here's a bunch of comparisons I made: the Dragonboxes were upscaled to 1440x1080 in Photoshop, and pillarboxes were added for easier comparing the Blu-ray. The US Dragonbox shots were shifted up 11 pixels to match the frame positioning of the JPN release. All shots lossless PNG.

Level 1.1 Blu-ray | JPN Dragonbox | US Dragonbox

This cinches it for me, I don't want to waste money on these levels.

Yes, FUNimation did a bang-up job this time, and the remastering looks top-notch compared to any of their previous efforts. I see no real problems with this release from the standpoint of someone wanting to purchase Dragon Ball for the first time.

But I see too many things I don't like in them for me to want to go out and spend money on them myself after buying the DBoxes. And here's why. Look at Piccolo in this shot. His purple clothes have 3 levels of shading on both Dragon Box shots. They only have 2 levels of shading on the Level shot.

I say calibrate the monitor, I'm at my editing workstation and the FUNimation Level set has those three shadings.

[batistabus]

I say calibrate the monitor, I'm at my editing workstation and the FUNimation Level set has those three shadings.

If I'm looking for the right difference, it looks like the Bricks have 3 shades too.

[jjgp1112]

DemonRin, your monitor must be terrible, because I can see the 3 shades of Piccolo's clothes EASILY. Plus, as everyone has pointed out, Episode 1 looks MUCH worse than the rest of the series.

[Kid Trunks]

I can see 3 shades if you count the shades on both his legs.

But if you count the shades on only his left leg, I can only see 2 shades in the levels image. Whereas I can see 3 shades on his left leg in the Dragonbox images.

[KiddoCabbusses]

I can see 3 shades if you count the shades on both his legs.

But if you count the shades on only his left leg, I can only see 2 shades in the levels image. Whereas I can see 3 shades on his left leg in the Dragonbox images.

Again, I see all three shades. Try jacking up the contrast/brightness if you're really concerned about this.

... on a completely random note, should I find it interesting that both the Level and DBox shots here have a white speck in the exact same position near the top-left in the sky?

[Krycek7o2]

gain, I see all three shades. Try jacking up the contrast/brightness if you're really concerned about this.

... on a completely random note, should I find it interesting that both the Level and DBox shots here have a white speck in the exact same position near the top-left in the sky?

FUNi did use the same source so... Yes, it should be there.

[Levlik]

It should also be noted that the first episode looks particularly bad in comparison to the others. It always has on FUNi's part for some reason.

[CyberpunkCentral]

FUNimation is not using their old masters for the Blu-ray. Their actually using the original film masters from Toei.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'll still wait for the next FUNi release. The Levels look awesome, but still not perfect, and I want a perfect release.

[Adamant]

DemonRin, your monitor must be terrible, because I can see the 3 shades of Piccolo's clothes EASILY. Plus, as everyone has pointed out, Episode 1 looks MUCH worse than the rest of the series.

Eh, I dunno. I can make out the shades, yes, but the colors are a lot darker than they need to be. Piccolo's pants look almost black on that thumbnail.