Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Rocketman » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:45 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Who's the strongest character in DB Spider-Man could defeat?
I think Spidey could hang in until roughly the 22nd Budokai. He doesn't have any counters to the big ki attacks, but I think he's still strong and fast enough for the hand-to-hand fighting.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Kaboom » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:57 am

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Who's the strongest character in DB Spider-Man could defeat?
I think Spidey could hang in until roughly the 22nd Budokai. He doesn't have any counters to the big ki attacks, but I think he's still strong and fast enough for the hand-to-hand fighting.
I'm inclined to agree. His Spider-Sense in particular would help a lot with all the crazy "too-fast-to-see" movements getting thrown around as well.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by dario03 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:04 am

Kaboom wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Who's the strongest character in DB Spider-Man could defeat?
I think Spidey could hang in until roughly the 22nd Budokai. He doesn't have any counters to the big ki attacks, but I think he's still strong and fast enough for the hand-to-hand fighting.
I'm inclined to agree. His Spider-Sense in particular would help a lot with all the crazy "too-fast-to-see" movements getting thrown around as well.
Thats what I was thinking. But isn't his spider-sense just for defense? I think he might have some trouble hitting the faster opponents, but he probably does hit hard.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Kaboom » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:09 am

dario03 wrote:Thats what I was thinking. But isn't his spider-sense just for defense? I think he might have some trouble hitting the faster opponents, but he probably does hit hard.
It'd serve essentially the same function as Ki-sensing by letting him track his opponents. If he can track them, then he can most likely also react and move quickly enough to hit them (what with super-enhanced reflexes and speed also being part of his powers).
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:25 am

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Crossovers are never really canon. I have not been update with comics lately, I'm pretty sure Spider-Man could make it up to Tao. Tao is stronger then Spider-man and faster, Tao could beat Spidey.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Fox666 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:45 am

I didn't posted it to be taken so serious, I just tought it would be entertaining.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Haji » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:28 am

Almost all comics to me, seem "non canon" I have explained before, but anyways. I don't think he would make it that far through DragonBall. Remember the fight between Kuririn and Muten Roshi?

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Post by Fox666 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:32 am

Remember Goku surviving a bullet shot and beating a dinossaur in Chapter 1?

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Post by Haji » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:38 am

Oh yeah, and how about that huge bear bandit? That guy could probably take out about half a city before he got taken down by armed forces and Goku took him down with one punch.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:10 am

Tenshinhan (w/ 6 arms) vs. Ashuraman
Bulma vs. Nami
Yamcha vs. Dirt
(joke match)
Mr. Popo vs. The Joker
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Fox666 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:10 pm

Ehhh, Bulma has no fighting skills, the farmer Raditz killed should be able to everything he pleases with her.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:14 pm

Wow you're dirty. :o
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:44 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Vegeta vs. Kazuya Mishima
Burter vs. Flash
Mr. Satan vs. Chuck Norris
1. Even in Devil form Kazuya is going to get his ass handed to him.

2. I think Flash is too fast for Butta, though I'm sure it's in character for him to not go all out from the beginning, when he doesn't know he's dealing with a guy with superpowers. Based on that perhaps Butta could pull off a win before Flash gets to reveal his true power.

On the other hand Butta might be underestimating Flash based on his scouter reading, since I don't think Flash would have a battle power, so perhaps Flash could surprise Butta with his speed.
I think it could go either way, when trying to figure out how the characters would normally act, if placed in such a situation.
But if they were going all-out from the beginning I think Flash should be able to take it easily.

3. If both were in their prime, I think it'd be a close match though Mark has the height, weight and reach advantage. I think it could go either way.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Tenshinhan (w/ 6 arms) vs. Ashuraman
Bulma vs. Nami
Yamcha vs. Dirt
(joke match)
Mr. Popo vs. The Joker
1. I don't know who or what Ashuraman is.
2. Probably Nami.
3. Yamcha.
4. Joker finds a way.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:01 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Mr. Popo vs. The Joker
Well, the Joker's not a martial arts master from the heavens, who was trained by a god and can both suppress and sense ki. So he instantly loses.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Rocketman » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:23 pm

Fox666 wrote:Remember Goku surviving a bullet shot and beating a dinossaur in Chapter 1?
Pteranodons aren't dinosaurs. Besides, Spidey can deadlift two T. Rexes.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:40 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Vegeta vs. Kazuya Mishima
Burter vs. Flash
Mr. Satan vs. Chuck Norris
1. Even in Devil form Kazuya is going to get his ass handed to him.

2. I think Flash is too fast for Butta, though I'm sure it's in character for him to not go all out from the beginning, when he doesn't know he's dealing with a guy with superpowers. Based on that perhaps Butta could pull off a win before Flash gets to reveal his true power.

On the other hand Butta might be underestimating Flash based on his scouter reading, since I don't think Flash would have a battle power, so perhaps Flash could surprise Butta with his speed.
I think it could go either way, when trying to figure out how the characters would normally act, if placed in such a situation.
But if they were going all-out from the beginning I think Flash should be able to take it easily.

3. If both were in their prime, I think it'd be a close match though Mark has the height, weight and reach advantage. I think it could go either way.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Tenshinhan (w/ 6 arms) vs. Ashuraman
Bulma vs. Nami
Yamcha vs. Dirt
(joke match)
Mr. Popo vs. The Joker
1. I don't know who or what Ashuraman is.
2. Probably Nami.
3. Yamcha.
4. Joker finds a way.
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This is Ashuraman from the anime cult classic called Kinnikuman.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by mysticboy » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:51 pm

The Superman vs. Spidey scans: Can we even consider crossovers canon?

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Post by Kaboom » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:39 pm

mysticboy wrote:The Superman vs. Spidey scans: Can we even consider crossovers canon?
When they depict Spidey kicking ass? Definitely.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by dario03 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:12 am

mysticboy wrote:The Superman vs. Spidey scans: Can we even consider crossovers canon?
Usually no. As far as I know Marvel and DC often times do say if things are canon or not and crossovers usually aren't. But even if that is canon, I'm pretty sure that scan is showing a powered up version of Spiderman and possibly a powered down version of Superman. That is probably the crossover where Lex Luthor and one of Spiderman's enemies tricks Spidey and Supes into fighting and while they are fighting Luthor uses a red solar radiation beam to power up Spiderman (which could also weaken Superman but I'm not sure if it did or not). And if thats not what that scan is then that probably isn't the real Spiderman or Superman or maybe thats Spiderman with Captain Universes powers.

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Post by dbgtFO » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:52 am

dario03 wrote:
mysticboy wrote:The Superman vs. Spidey scans: Can we even consider crossovers canon?
That is probably the crossover where Lex Luthor and one of Spiderman's enemies tricks Spidey and Supes into fighting and while they are fighting Luthor uses a red solar radiation beam to power up Spiderman (which could also weaken Superman but I'm not sure if it did or not).
Correct.
The red sun radiation negated Superman's invunerability, but after it wore off, this happened:
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