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by Tanooki Kuribo » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:50 pm
VegettoEX wrote:I think the vast majority of us have mentioned him out of somewhat ironic yet hesitantly-afraid hilarity, rather than seriousness.
Oh man, it would be awesome if the opening credits had Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta fighting Super Saiyan 3 Broly. Then after the credits are over, it zooms out to reveal it's just Goten and Trunks playing a video game.
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by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:07 am
Chuquita wrote:I think it's partly due to Brolli's reputation (popularity?) in the U.S. that he's mentioned in the thread so much. Some glimpses I've gotten into how he's seen in Japan (at least through YouTube and Niconico) is more of a meme/joke character.
Agreed. It's also because back in the old days, before we had a DVD release featuring Broli, there wasn't much informations about him, except that he's a Legendary Super Saiyan. That is due to the fact that he has a unique form and personality that apparently made him popular.
When I was a kid, I had this Beckett DBZ magazine that shows a page of exclusive merchandises. There were pictures of Super Battle Collection Broli figures. As soon as I saw these, I thought, "Awesome dude! Is he gonna be in the TV series?!" But eventually I found out he was a movie character. I liked him a lot. When Movie 8 hit the stores, I snagged it as soon as I could.
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by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:52 am
I really don't like Broly, I just see him as a hulk rip off, and I think he's vastly overrated, he got defeated by a weakened SSJ Goku with the power of four near death warriors, but that is a typical Toei Dbz movie I guess. If anyone were to get a SSJ power up I do think that Vegeta deserves it the most, but if he doesn't i wont be too fussed.
I really can't get an idea of what the plot will be, besides being between chapter 517-518. (Hopefully)
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by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:46 am
Broli's definitely not going to be in this movie, OK guys? I have faith that not even Toei would try and shove in an already dead villain for a fourth movie appearance, let alone giving him two transformations (yeah, you need SS2 to reach SS3). I don't really care either way if Vegeta gets SS3 or we see Gogeta again, but I hope that's not the special grab of the movie. Just as long as it's got an original plot, with an original villain, and no Gokuu wankfest.
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by Super Sayian Prime » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:09 am
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Broli's definitely not going to be in this movie, OK guys? I have faith that not even Toei would try and shove in an already dead villain for a third movie appearance, let alone giving him two transformations (yeah, you need SS2 to reach SS3). I don't really care either way if Vegeta gets SS3 or we see Gogeta again, but I hope that's not the special grab of the movie. Just as long as it's got an original plot, with an original villain, and no Gokuu wankfest.
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"I like the money it brings in, but Dragon Ball Heroes is the worst. That's actually the real reason I decided to start working on new material. I was afraid Bandai would make something irredeemably stupid like Super Saiyan 4 Broly." - Akira Toriyama, made up interview, 2013.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:16 am
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:Broli's definitely not going to be in this movie, OK guys? I have faith that not even Toei would try and shove in an already dead villain for a third movie appearance, let alone giving him two transformations (yeah, you need SS2 to reach SS3). I don't really care either way if Vegeta gets SS3 or we see Gogeta again, but I hope that's not the special grab of the movie. Just as long as it's got an original plot, with an original villain, and no Gokuu wankfest.
Fourth.
Oh yeah, it'd be his fourth movie appearance. I guess that's because, in my mind,
DBZ Movie #11's villain is just a B-movie sludge monster who doesn't even look like Broli and happens to be born from his DNA.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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by Akumaito Beam » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:52 am
I just hope they don't try to sloppily explain shit that doesn't need explaining. That's my only hope for this movie. No poetry (cuz' you see...it rhymes!)
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by hleV » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:24 am
VegettoEX wrote:I think the vast majority of us have mentioned him out of somewhat ironic yet hesitantly-afraid hilarity, rather than seriousness.
Perhaps. But still, we get a thread to discuss opinions regarding the upcoming movie -- we get entire pages of discussion about Broli who I'm sure isn't going to be in. I'm just generally surprised by that.
Anyway, I sure as hell hope we're gonna see a Makaioshin. Makaioshins just have to be explained sooner or later! Even better if it's by Toriyama himself.
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by hleV » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:04 am
He says "between Z and GT", so it's not that "lost decade" which we've been expecting?
Also he apparently goes by the anime ("Z", "GT", duh...) rather than the manga (and possibly DBO), and I don't like this. Is Toriyama fine with this, even after years spent on DBO which revolves around the manga and ignores GT?
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by The Tori-bot » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:18 am
hleV wrote:
He says "between Z and GT"
Which can't be true if we're getting young Goten and Trunks.
Uh-oh... somebody doesn't know his timeskips...
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by Saiga » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:19 am
Yeah, sounds like he just fudged it.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:21 am
I think he basically means it's going to be set in the 10 years between Boo's destruction and the 28th Tenkaichi Budoukai, like with DBZ Movie #13 and the JSAT special, which makes sense, judging by the characters' designs.
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by Hujio » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:47 am
Yeah, Google translator doesn't really do this sentence justice, which based on the comments is what most people are going from. What
Kei is specifically talking about is this sentence:
"厳密にいうと原作漫画の「最終話」と「その直前回」の間です。"
Here's the translation, via me: "Strictly speaking, it's between the 'final story' and 'just before the (tournament) rounds' of the original manga."
So for the record, he doesn't say anything about "Z" or its anime adaptation. And as far as the "GT" bit is concerned, he basically says it's not part of the original work to him.
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by Saiga » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:50 am
He seems like a pretty cool guy then.
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by hleV » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:52 am
Thanks for clearing that up, Hujio! The things seem to be better than I thought, after all.
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by Michsi » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:12 am
Figured something got lost in translation
I'm not a fan of picking statements apart word for word but that "'just before the (tournament) rounds' " got me thinking. I was actually sure it would take place closer to the ending of the Buu Saga, which again, makes more sense when considering how Goten and Trunks were featured in the first promo poster. Could this mean it's actually closer to the end of that 10 year gap?
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by kei17 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:17 am
In addition, according his tweet, he received the offer around the time when Munenori Sawa, a pro wrestler, did a big thing at
Tenka-ichi Junior. He won the tournament last September, so they seem to have drawn up this project much earlier than we thought.
http://twitter.com/yuusukewatanabe/stat ... 9792319488
Michsi wrote:I'm not a fan of picking statements apart word for word but that "'just before the (tournament) rounds' " got me thinking. I was actually sure it would take place closer to the ending of the Buu Saga, which again, makes more sense when considering how Goten and Trunks were featured in the first promo poster. Could this mean it's actually closer to the end of that 10 year gap?
"直前回" refers to the previous episode, so he still hasn't stated the exact time yet.
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by Herms » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:00 pm
Hujio wrote:Yeah, Google translator doesn't really do this sentence justice, which based on the comments is what most people are going from. What
Kei is specifically talking about is this sentence:
"厳密にいうと原作漫画の「最終話」と「その直前回」の間です。"
Here's the translation, via me: "Strictly speaking, it's between the 'final story' and 'just before the (tournament) rounds' of the original manga."
More like "between the last chapter of the original manga and the chapter right before that". 回 here basically means "chapter" or "episode"; it's not talking about tournament matches.
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by Hujio » Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:16 pm
Herms wrote:More like "between the last chapter of the original manga and the chapter right before that". 回 here basically means "chapter" or "episode"; it's not talking about tournament matches.
Ah... It's always those little things that get me. So we're still talking about the same time frame though, right? I mean, he can't be speaking of chapters 518 and 519, because that doesn't make any sense.
