How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
Locked
User avatar
sonikku956
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 433
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:15 pm
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by sonikku956 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:57 pm

I was wondering how strong these four are for a while.

User avatar
DBZAOTA482
Banned
Posts: 6995
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm
Contact:

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:03 pm

Son Goku Saga - Saiyan Saga: Tenshinhan > Kuririn > Yamcha > Chaozu

Tenshinhan was among the main contenders (Goku, Piccolo etc.) by this point, and Kuririn was not-too-far from that. Yamcha was decemt before the others came into the scene and recesses by that time. Chaozu hardly did anything but cheat for Tenshinhan during the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai.

Namek - Cell Games Saga: Kuririn > Tenshinhan > Yamcha > Chaozu

Yamcha, and Chaozu are totally useless by this point. Kuririn, and Tenshinhan slowly recess by this point but still capable of being assistence.

Afterlife Tournament - Majin Buu Saga: Tenshinhan > Kuririn > Yamcha > Chaozu

They were all (almost) completely useless by this point. The villain view them as no threat at all.

But then again, that's just me. :|
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

User avatar
Saiga
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8311
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:36 pm
Location: Space Australia

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by Saiga » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:58 pm

Not powerful enough to matter.
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!

User avatar
CaptainKatsura
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 76
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:48 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by CaptainKatsura » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:14 am

^True. Not even enough to stall opponents, so Vegeta took on mantle of the main Worf of the series :lol:

My estimation of power levels Tenshinhan's, Yamcha's and Chiaotzu's after King Kai's training:

(at best)

Tenshinhan: 36.600
Yamcha: 29.600
Chiaotzu: 12.200

I feel I could be kind of too generous :p

User avatar
shonenhikada
Banned
Posts: 630
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:26 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by shonenhikada » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:39 am

My power level for tenshihan, Yamcha and Krillin during the android arc

Yamcha-65,000,000
Tien - 75,000,000
Krillin - 60,000,000

User avatar
CaptainKatsura
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 76
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:48 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by CaptainKatsura » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:49 am

Krillin growing in power than by 1000 times sound farfetch'd, since it would mean that he grew in power at much, much faster rate than Piccolo who received a superior training (as he trained with Gohan and SSJ Goku), compared to Krillin who merely trained on his own with some "guidance" from Master Roshi (him sleeping/watching porn while Krillin trains) :p

User avatar
Fox666
I Live Here
Posts: 4343
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:18 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by Fox666 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:04 am

Yamcha: 400,000,000
Kuririn: 7500,000,000
Tenshinhan: 90,000,000,000
Videl: 80,000,000

User avatar
DBZAOTA482
Banned
Posts: 6995
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm
Contact:

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:10 am

Fox666 wrote:Videl: 80,000,000
I doubt Videl even crosses the hundreds territory much less the millions since all she had to train with her was her weak-ass father Mr. Satan.

What about Chaozu?
Last edited by DBZAOTA482 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

User avatar
MisguidedGhost
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 66
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:21 pm

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by MisguidedGhost » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:10 am

Saiga probably said it best. I do think the humans managed to increase in power a fair amount, but without the benefits of gravity training, near-death boosts abuse or transformations, they can only go so far. I'd say Yamcha and Krillin peaked in the Android Arc, with Krillin maybe around 500,000. By the Buu Arc, I think Tien would've surpassed Krillin, but even still, I wouldn't put him anywhere near 1,000,000.

User avatar
hleV
Banned
Posts: 3325
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:15 pm
Location: Lithuania

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by hleV » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:10 am

Guys who could barely reach hundreds and then thousands under Kami go to high millions? Seems legit.
I myself have trouble with even Tenshinhan surpassing Kuririn's 25,000 or 35,000 (whichever was the power he got from the Elder). If he did, then that's because he's actually an alien.
Last edited by hleV on Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:13 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
shonenhikada
Banned
Posts: 630
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:26 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by shonenhikada » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:13 am

CaptainKatsura wrote:Krillin growing in power than by 1000 times sound farfetch'd, since it would mean that he grew in power at much, much faster rate than Piccolo who received a superior training (as he trained with Gohan and SSJ Goku), compared to Krillin who merely trained on his own with some "guidance" from Master Roshi (him sleeping/watching porn while Krillin trains) :p
I think power levels in general for each given season is more plot based/character relation rather than actually following logical interpretation. For example before they fought the saiberman, where would you have theoretically have put the humans power levels, using son goku as a measuring stick, & factoring the year goku trained with kami/popo.

The only exception is Buu arc when certain characters are said to not train.
Last edited by shonenhikada on Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:35 am, edited 4 times in total.

User avatar
shonenhikada
Banned
Posts: 630
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:26 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by shonenhikada » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:14 am

hleV wrote:Guys who could barely reach hundreds and then thousands under Kami go to high millions? Seems legit.
I myself have trouble with even Tenshinhan surpassing Kuririn's 25,000 or 35,000 (whichever was the power he got from the Elder). If he did, then that's because he's actually an alien.
You say barely like if they were all between 1000-1100. When all were well over the 1300+ mark. People downplay humans to much.

User avatar
hleV
Banned
Posts: 3325
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:15 pm
Location: Lithuania

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by hleV » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:30 am

shonenhikada wrote: You say barely like if they were all between 1000-1100. When all were well over the 1300+ mark. People downplay humans to much.
No, I said thousands.

User avatar
shonenhikada
Banned
Posts: 630
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:26 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by shonenhikada » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:34 am

hleV wrote:
shonenhikada wrote: You say barely like if they were all between 1000-1100. When all were well over the 1300+ mark. People downplay humans to much.
No, I said thousands.
Oh my mistake. But in retrospect when you compare their progress in 1 year compared to goku in 4 years to defeat piccolo it just shows the entire thing seems to revolve around a plot base rather than logical reasoning.

User avatar
Piccolo Daimao
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8749
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:41 am

Well, I think that Kuririn ended up surpassing Tenshinhan due to the Great Elder awakening his dormant power, which got him up to 75k, but only by the Cell arc. I think that Tenshinhan, around the same time, reached 65k, with Yamcha following behind at 45k. And no-one cares about Chaozu.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.

User avatar
shonenhikada
Banned
Posts: 630
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:26 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by shonenhikada » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:57 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Well, I think that Kuririn ended up surpassing Tenshinhan due to the Great Elder awakening his dormant power, which got him up to 75k, but only by the Cell arc. I think that Tenshinhan, around the same time, reached 65k, with Yamcha following behind at 45k. And no-one cares about Chaozu.
I'll put Yamcha at 50 K. But overall this seems about right for the power levels in the namek arc.

User avatar
Travis Touchdown
Regular
Posts: 734
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:14 pm
Contact:

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by Travis Touchdown » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:03 pm

I'd give them Vegeta's level when he fought Frieza at best. Not enough to contend with Frieza, but fairly strong.

I'd rate them like this; Tien>Yamcha>Krillin>>>>>Chiaotzu. When it comes to actual numbers; I have no idea. I dunno how to calculate one's power level, and they're so radically different depending on who you ask.

And yeah, I wouldn't even rate Videl at 10. She's somewhere above 5 because she's clearly stronger than the Farmer, but she isn't anywhere close to Goku at the beginning, so that puts her below 10.
"Hey girlfriend, why don't you throw a few more punches? Afraid you might break a nail or somethin?"
Ken - Street Fighter II

User avatar
Kaboom
Moderator
Posts: 14506
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:07 pm

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by Kaboom » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:07 pm

Like already mentioned, "not strong enough to matter." In the Androids arc, they helped out by being scouts, errand-runners, and ki-beacons. In the Boo arc, they... uh... Kuririn did more errand-running.

In terms of powar levul numbahs, I typically place them all topping out around the 100,000 mark. Kuririn and Tenshinhan above it (Kuririn in the lead pushing 150k), Yamcha somewhat below it. And Chaozu is somewhere in 'who cares' land.

I'd be genuinely surprised if any official source placed them at one million or above.
[ BlueSky | Bsky: DBS Plots | DeviantArt | Twitter (Depreciated) ]

[PSN/Steam: KaboomKrusader | Switch FC: SW-4304-7361-2824 | ACNH Dream Address: DA-1637-4046-7415 ("SlamZone") ]

Powar Levuls! — DBZ | Movies & Specials | GT

User avatar
shonenhikada
Banned
Posts: 630
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:26 am

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by shonenhikada » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:23 pm

Kaboom wrote:Like already mentioned, "not strong enough to matter." In the Androids arc, they helped out by being scouts, errand-runners, and ki-beacons. In the Boo arc, they... uh... Kuririn did more errand-running.

In terms of powar levul numbahs, I typically place them all topping out around the 100,000 mark. Kuririn and Tenshinhan above it (Kuririn in the lead pushing 150k), Yamcha somewhat below it. And Chaozu is somewhere in 'who cares' land.

I'd be genuinely surprised if any official source placed them at one million or above.
What would you say if Toriyama released a book placing them in double digit millions ?

User avatar
VegettoEX
Kanzenshuu Co-Owner & Administrator
Posts: 17811
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:10 pm
Location: New Jersey
Contact:

Re: How powerful did Yamcha, Ten, Chaozu, and Krillin get?

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:30 pm

shonenhikada wrote:What would you say if Toriyama released a book placing them in double digit millions ?
It depends on whether you want to accept information released at a later date -- by the original author himself or anyone else -- as confirmation or expansion upon what was already presented in the original work. Even then you can slice it up even further based on the wording of this supposed description. Would he be explaining, "Yes, when I wrote it at that exact point in time, here's what I was thinking and how I meant it to be conveyed"... or would it be, "I think this is maybe the right way to think about it"... ?

You can either accept it or not. Plenty of people would go both ways.
:: [| Mike "VegettoEX" LaBrie |] ::
:: [| Kanzenshuu - Co-Founder/Administrator, Podcast Host, News Manager (note: our "job" titles are arbitrary and meaningless) |] ::
:: [| Website: January 1998 |] :: [| Podcast: November 2005 |] :: [| Fusion: April 2012 |] :: [| Wiki: April 2026 |] ::

Locked