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by Scarz » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:05 pm
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:You've got to be kidding me. I thought they were easily the worst, even in his current standard, except maybe Tao Pai Pai. Goku at the end looks... horrible. How in the world is he so skinny? As an artist myself, I find them to be so uninspiring.
... Get out.
Kaboom wrote:
1) They're quick sketches.
2) They're meant to be fun and light in feel, not hardcore detailed and actiony.
3) Toriyama's art style has evolved over the years, notably moving away from the hard and angular look of the Cell and Majin Boo arcs and back in the cartoony direction of earlier Dragon Ball. These look spot-on like the work he's done for such things as the recent Dragon Quest games.
Exactly this.
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by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:24 pm
Scarz wrote:DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:You've got to be kidding me. I thought they were easily the worst, even in his current standard, except maybe Tao Pai Pai. Goku at the end looks... horrible. How in the world is he so skinny? As an artist myself, I find them to be so uninspiring.
... Get out.
It's my opinion... I was just being honest. I don't like it. It's incredibly rude of you to say that.
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by Scarz » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:22 pm
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Scarz wrote:DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:You've got to be kidding me. I thought they were easily the worst, even in his current standard, except maybe Tao Pai Pai. Goku at the end looks... horrible. How in the world is he so skinny? As an artist myself, I find them to be so uninspiring.
... Get out.
It's my opinion... I was just being honest. I don't like it. It's incredibly rude of you to say that.
I'm just messing, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Unless of course they're totally, totally wrong.
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by NeoKING » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:51 pm
I don't like them too much either. Gonna tell me to get out? Just because it's Toriyama's recent stuff doesn't mean I have to like it. To me, Toriyama's art was at it's peak during the Cell saga's run. Saying that they're quick sketches doesn't help much, considering the amount of manga-ka who create amazing "quick sketches" when asked.
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by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:59 pm
Kaboom wrote:How much do I love that final sketch of Goku?
<- This much.
...gawd dammit Kaboom. I knew I should have done it earlier, I just didn't have the time. Racka-fracka &*#T89ty2...
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by dprez » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:55 pm
Kaboom wrote:How much do I love that final sketch of Goku?
<- This much.
I would have done the same.
These drawings are fantastic. It's great to see some super recent Dragon Ball drawings by Mr. Toriyama.
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by Tzigi » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:53 pm
I also dislike those pictures (the only 'decent' one for me [for me - mind you] is the Chaozu one -
the problem here is just that he's one of the characters I don't like that much).
But now, thanks to this tread, I know what has bugged me for some time in recent DB-related media: the relapse into 100% cartoony-ness as opposed to stylised 'realism' of Cell era. This trend is already visible for example in the full page drawing of the first meeting of Goku and Bulma in volume 42. The little Goku there shows all the same characteristics that those drawings here have and that I dislike - skinny and deformed, almost One Piece-like characters (I think that you can already say that I dislike Oda's drawing style as well). There are things that fit Dr Slump well and do not fit DB at all. When I look at this last Adult!Goku I get an instant mental list of illnesses that changed the Z!Goku into this disfigured poor guy.
Still, I can understand that people not so attached to the classic 'Cell era Toriyama' style can like it 
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by penguintruth » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:34 pm
They should have requested Lunch, to see what would happen.
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by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:53 pm
I figured it was about time for a new icon.
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by Daimakku » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:43 pm
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:You've got to be kidding me. I thought they were easily the worst, even in his current standard, except maybe Tao Pai Pai. Goku at the end looks... horrible. How in the world is he so skinny? As an artist myself, I find them to be so uninspiring.
He looks like Goku from the end of Dragonball. Not super buff yet and still young-looking.
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by Godo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:58 pm
I really like how Toriyama's style has gone back to the cartooniness and evolved further.
I didn't like the straight-liney style he got post Freeza arc as much. Sure, it was nice and all, but the feeling of adventure was lost.
As an example, the way Oda draws One Piece makes me both enjoy the action, without losing the feeling of adventure in the story.
I believe that it would be awesome if we could see some of the post Freeza arc battles in Toriyama's current style.
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by Maphisto86 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:15 pm
Oh wow that was really awesome of Akira Toriyama.
My favourite is the Chaozu one on the bass guitar.
Thanks Bussani for the translation.
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by Insertclevername » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:31 pm
Super awesome, despite being quick sketches, they look pretty damn good. Especially the Chaozu and Freeza sketches, they're sooooo nice. Freeza looks a bit different though, but I like his newer "style".
penguintruth wrote:They should have requested Lunch, to see what would happen.
He would have probably drawn
this, thinking that's what they meant.
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by chaosakita » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:23 pm
That's awesome! Maximum the Hormone are really big DBZ fans. They even wrote a song about the show. If you haven't listened to "F" yet, you should definitely do so.
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by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:28 pm
penguintruth wrote:They should have requested Lunch, to see what would happen.
I'm pretty sure he would have drawn 17, because no one would remember who she was.
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by Kuwabara » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:01 am
I too want Chaozu's sacrifice emblazoned upon my mighty axe...
This is the episode of when Gokuh enrages himself after Freezer talk shit about Kuririn
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by Pokewhiz7 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:41 am
Damn, thanks!
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by Kendamu » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:02 am
Kaboom wrote:How much do I love that final sketch of Goku?
<- This much.
You beat me to it!!
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by Saiga » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:37 am
Kaboom wrote:How much do I love that final sketch of Goku?
<- This much.
Damn it, I first saw this thread on my iPod and I finally get home from my exams to find I've already beaten to the avatar. :V
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