How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

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How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by samuraix123 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:06 am

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How did you folks feel about the English singers in Kai?

I do like these two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdzNN8rjOo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpnq1RdywZg

But in my opinion this is just horrible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icsM-38OSq0
I couldn't find the rest of them but what made Funimation think it was a good idea to let the voice cast sing the opening and closing credits? I honestly wish they would have kept the Japanese singers for the opening and closing songs.
Does anyone else feel the same way? because anytime I watch Kai as soon as that intro starts playing I just switch to Japanese.
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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by Gonstead » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:02 am

If your going to produce a dub, why not go all out and do the openings and endings anyway?

And also, Sean Schemmel's Dragon Soul isn't really that bad at least IMO. However, Justin Cook's definitely is the least in quality.

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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by [SP] » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:06 am

Part 1 - Sean Schemmel VA of Goku
(The one you called horrible)
Part 2 - Justin Cook VA of Raditz

Part 3 - Vic Mignogna VA of Edward Elric and Also Burter and Broly from DBZ/Kai
(The version that you praised the most)
Part 4 - Greg Ayres VA of Guldo

Part 5 - Sonny Strait VA of Bardock and Krillin

Part 6 - Brina Palencia VA of Puar and Chaozu

Part 7 - Mix of Greg Ayres, Sean Schemmel and Justin Cook

Part 8 - Mix of Brina Palencia, Vic Mignogna and Sonny Strait.

I think that not all of the VAs did a terrible job, like you said, Vic Mignogna performed well. Personally I think that Sean Schemmel was pretty good, but the autotune can be distracting.

I liked Brina Palencia's rendition most of the time, and she wrote the English lyrics as well.

FUNimation usually do well in dubbing songs, and remember that Kai was brought to the US with the driving force of television networks airing this for children between 8-12, think about what they would be thinking if they show Takayoshi Tanimoto's performance of Dragon Soul... [What is this weird language that I have never heard before etc.] (Even though The Lone Warrior was used as an insert in Episode 82 with the Japanese vocals, even in the Nicktoons broadcast.)

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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:06 am

Gonstead wrote:If your going to produce a dub, why not go all out and do the openings and endings anyway?
My thoughts exactly! I have no problem whatsoever with Japanese songs in and of themselves (I've got hundreds of 'em on my iPod, after all), but I don't like them in the context of English dubs. Like you said, if you're going to produce a dub, why not go all out? I have an all-or-nothing outlook when it comes to dubs. When I hear a Japanese song in an English dub, it breaks the fourth wall and takes me out of the moment.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:10 am

Gonstead wrote:If your going to produce a dub, why not go all out and do the openings and endings anyway?

And also, Sean Schemmel's Dragon Soul isn't really that bad at least IMO. However, Justin Cook's definitely is the least in quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVxOWyOLVX4
That one isn't that bad IMO.

Also, imagine Christopher Sabat (Vegeta, Piccolo etc.) singing that song.
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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:48 pm

There's basically one for each taste, and so, my two picks are Greg Ayres and Vic Mignogna.

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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:13 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Gonstead wrote:If your going to produce a dub, why not go all out and do the openings and endings anyway?

And also, Sean Schemmel's Dragon Soul isn't really that bad at least IMO. However, Justin Cook's definitely is the least in quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVxOWyOLVX4
That one isn't that bad IMO.

Also, imagine Christopher Sabat (Vegeta, Piccolo etc.) singing that song.
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...But there does indeed exist a version of "Dragon Soul" sung by Chris Sabat. Sort of. He said at a con that he never intended to sing it because it was way out of his vocal range, but he did record a "joke version" of sorts just to show to his friends at FUNimation. He said he sang the whole thing with a heavy southern accent and inserted swear words into random places, just for laughs. I'd love to hear it, but it doesn't sound like anyone outside of FUNimation is going to hear it. At least not for a while, anyway.

Similarly, I once asked him (via his Facebook page) if FUNimation has a blooper reel for their DBZ dub, and much like Chris Sabat's take on "Dragon Soul," such a blooper reel does exist, but it hasn't been made public. Oh man would I love to hear that!
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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by CaBrPi » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:28 pm

My favorites are Vic Mignogna, Greg Ayres, and Brina Palencia.

I really don't care for the other three.

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Post by Jackal puFF » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:53 am

Brina Palencia and Sonny are my favorites. I'm sure Sabat would be one too.

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Post by Super Gazellian » Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:42 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:I'm cautious to repeat stories I've already told just because I don't want to annoy anyone by sounding like a broken record, so I apolgize for anyone who's read this story...

...But there does indeed exist a version of "Dragon Soul" sung by Chris Sabat. Sort of. He said at a con that he never intended to sing it because it was way out of his vocal range, but he did record a "joke version" of sorts just to show to his friends at FUNimation. He said he sang the whole thing with a heavy southern accent and inserted swear words into random places, just for laughs. I'd love to hear it, but it doesn't sound like anyone outside of FUNimation is going to hear it. At least not for a while, anyway.

Similarly, I once asked him (via his Facebook page) if FUNimation has a blooper reel for their DBZ dub, and much like Chris Sabat's take on "Dragon Soul," such a blooper reel does exist, but it hasn't been made public. Oh man would I love to hear that!
Haha oh man I'd pay to hear those :lol:
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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:51 pm

Worst English Kai song is Kokoro No Hane, it sounds like a mix that a teenage girl did with Garage Band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PetHXweDBrg
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Post by wjbraden » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:46 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:
Gonstead wrote:If your going to produce a dub, why not go all out and do the openings and endings anyway?
My thoughts exactly! I have no problem whatsoever with Japanese songs in and of themselves (I've got hundreds of 'em on my iPod, after all), but I don't like them in the context of English dubs. Like you said, if you're going to produce a dub, why not go all out? I have an all-or-nothing outlook when it comes to dubs. When I hear a Japanese song in an English dub, it breaks the fourth wall and takes me out of the moment.

Finally someone who thinks the same way I do! :D I find it really lazy when a Dubbing company doesn't even attempt to dub any of the songs and just leaves them in Japanese. The rest of the dub is in English, why shouldn't the songs be? It's not like the Japanese songs disappear forever or anything.

Also, in some rare cases, dubbed songs are even better than the original (look at some of the German Detective Conan openings and the English dub of Opening 3 of One Piece for some examples).

I've also got hundreds of dubbed songs on my ipod too BlackPaladin. 8)
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Post by Eire » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:13 am

Nickleodeon PL has a strange policy of cutting off endings, leaving original openings and dubbing insert songs. You know why? Because they want kids to know the original version- or they wrote so on facebook. Read: we just don't care, it's cheaaaper!
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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by Bussani » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:11 am

I don't really mind either way. Dubbing songs sort of feels like an old-school thing to do that not many companies do anymore, but as much as I'm okay with dubs having the original Japanese songs, it's kind of nice to see it done again here and there. Dragon Ball GT and Kai's dubbed openings were fine and dandy if you ask me.
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Post by Kendamu » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:13 am

Bussani wrote:I don't really mind either way. Dubbing songs sort of feels like an old-school thing to do that not many companies do anymore, but as much as I'm okay with dubs having the original Japanese songs, it's kind of nice to see it done again here and there. Dragon Ball GT and Kai's dubbed openings were fine and dandy if you ask me.
I pretty much feel the same way. In the case of Kai, some of the vocalists weren't all that great, but since I skip the opening most of the time I didn't really care that much.

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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by Puto » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:30 am

I don't mind song dubs if they're done to similar standards of quality as the original song (I loved ‘Ginyū Force Rules’ for instance), but that's rarely the case.

I'm very glad the Portuguese dubs of the Digimon series all keep the insert songs in Japanese, for instance, because if they were to dub them, I just know they'd turn out terrible.
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Post by wjbraden » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:44 am

I actually thought that the EU Portuguese Digimon songs were pretty good. However, I thought that the EU-PT dub of "Oversoul" from Shaman King was just exceptional. It's probably one of the best dubs of a song I've ever heard.
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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by Puto » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:46 am

Hear the Savers songs and you might not feel that way :s

The lyrics are good, but the singer just sounds flat and generic.

And while the singers in the openings of 02, Tamers and Frontier were good, the 02 and Tamers songs had ridiculous lyrics. Adventure's ending and Frontier's opening were great though.
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Re: How did you feel about the English singers in Kai?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:20 am

I thought the Mexican Spanish dub of "We Were Angels" was exceptional.

...Then again, I love that song in general. One of Kageyama's best, if you ask me.
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Post by Rory » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:41 am

They're all awful except for Mignogalogalog. Even then, his 'full' version of the opening isn't that good, his TV version is much better. Auto-tuned Schemmel is depressing.

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