Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

[Thouser]

-arguing about which romanization of X character's name is better
-arguing about which translation of sento ryoku is better
-arguing about what is or isn't canon (if you like something, just let it "count" in your head, because no one cares)

Do you legitimately see people arguing about this stuff, or are these just conversations you see that you personally have no interest in?

I guess "arguing" is too strong a word. "Passionate conversations" then.

It might not seem like a difference, but I think there is -- disparaging a conversation you have no interest in is just as bad .

I can personally be pretty picky about which translations I like, but "fighting strength", "battle power", etc. are all pretty much the same. Even "power level" gets the point across, despite not being a literal translation. Like quite a few things in translation, it really just falls down to personal preference. If one guy likes to say "Fighting Strength", but some other guy likes to say "Battle Force" or something, that's totally fine.

Besides, I thought this thread was just for talking about stuff we were personally tired of seeing, I wasn't implying anyone has to stop . If people want to have passionate conversations about whether or not the "o" should be left at the end of "Kakarrotto", then they can go ahead.

[Gonstead]

I'll second not wanting to hear the Saiyaman hate. I also dislike that people give him flak for not training over those 7 years.

I really think he should have spent a little time training, But I don't blame him for not doing it. He just doesn't like fighting and that's that.

I do think he shouldn't have completely slacked off, but I think it's an innocent mistake to make.

He probably sparred with Vegeta a few times over the years at Vegeta's request but not enough so that he wouldn't be slacking off.

[DBZAOTA482]

-Pan hate( OMG Blasphemy, but seriously I got used to complainers and prefer them to fucking purity sues)

Sorry but I think the hatred is fairly justified. She's like Bulma on Namek merged with a Scrappy Doo personality (although to her credit she doesn't quite capture the annoyance level of the latter)

[Saiga]

Never understood the Pan hate. She has a few annoying moments but nothing too upsetting.

[DBZAOTA482]

Never understood the Pan hate. She has a few annoying moments but nothing too upsetting.

GT happened.

[Gyt Kaliba]

-Pan hate( OMG Blasphemy, but seriously I got used to complainers and prefer them to fucking purity sues)

Sorry but I think the hatred is fairly justified. She's like Bulma on Namek merged with a Scrappy Doo personality (although to her credit she doesn't quite capture the annoyance level of the latter)

A little off topic, but I've never understood the hate for Scrappy Doo either. He's my favorite character from the Scooby franchise.

I do think that a majority of the hate is because Pan is seen primarily as a GT character though. Any personality trait she has that someone would dislike her for, can easily be leveled at like...almost every other female character in the franchise.

[Saiga]

Never understood the Pan hate. She has a few annoying moments but nothing too upsetting.

GT happened.

Yeah, I'm talking about her GT version.

[Hellspawn28]

The Para Para Brothers are the characters in GT that I hate the most. I can not stand them and they are easily my least favorite characters in the whole franchise.

[DBZAOTA482]

Never understood the Pan hate. She has a few annoying moments but nothing too upsetting.

GT happened.

Yeah, I'm talking about her GT version.

Well, if she was just reckless or was trying to earn her amazing grandfather Goku's affection/attention (which I always personally find adorable for a little girl to do) then maybe I wouldn't have a problem with her but she's mainly the way she is to satisfy her own ego while giving little consideration on how it would affect the others. I hate that because kids like that deserve a thorough beating with a belt (I'm looking at you Gotenks). Even for a 10 year-old, she lacks self-control.

Don't get my wrong though, I don't completely hate her. She has her moments where she shows of a remotely likable character but there's just too much for me to hate.


I definitely agree with Hellspawn on the Para Para Brothers.

[Majin Steve]

If Akira Toriyama had written a GT manga and GT was based on it, it wouldn't receive so much as a quarter of the bitching it gets. Because it's by the anime studios it's unholy just like all that nasty nasty original filler.

The Para Para brothers are something straight out of Dragon Ball.

[Saiga]

If Akira Toriyama had written a GT manga and GT was based on it, it wouldn't receive so much as a quarter of the bitching it gets. Because it's by the anime studios it's unholy just like all that nasty nasty original filler.

The Para Para brothers are something straight out of Dragon Ball.

I couldn't disagree more. While there are certainly some fans who hate GT just because it wasn't made by AT, it's mostly hated because of the perceived quality. The Para Para brothers are a failed attempt to capture Toriyama's wackiness.

The movies don't get nearly the amount of hate that filler or GT get, yet they were Toei originals as well.

[Sin]

At this point I'd say anything to do with Gogeta vs. Broly, and also I agree with what's been said about power levels; when I visit the 'In-universe' section of the forum I usually end up more confused about stuff when I come out than when I went in.

[Hellspawn28]

The movies had better writing then GT. GT had plot holes that were big enough to drive a truck through .

[Saiga]

The movies had better writing then GT. GT had plot holes that were big enough to drive a truck through .

Exactly. My point was that something isn't hated purely because it's not Toriyama-made.

[Ringworm128]

People bashing Sabat for having so many roles then praising Nozawa for voicing almost everyone in Goku's family and Tullece.
TFS references that aren't witty or clever.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Never understood the Pan hate. She has a few annoying moments but nothing too upsetting.

When I saw GT the first time, it was with the FUNi dub, and I couldn't stand her at all. But when I watched GT the second time, in Japanese, she didn't seem so annoying, I even came to like her a little.

[90sDBZ]

-As others have said the whole thing with people claiming it was meant to end at Frieza
-Young kids these days saying they liked it since before it was cool even though they weren't born before it gained worldwide popularity
-People saying Superman would beat Goku in a fight
-People saying Kai sucks. Both Z and Kai are great in my book for different reasons.
-Purists constantly bashing all English dubs
-People complaining how the early Ocean dub butchered DBZ by cutting out boring filler scenes then praising Kai for doing the same thing. For the record I love both early Ocean Z and FUNi Kai.
-Although I adore Faulconer's music overall and consider it my favourite soundtrack for DBZ there are occasional peaceful scenes that really could have done without it like that cringeworthy music that plays when Goku and Gohan are acidently destroying their house as MSS. Just terrible.
-The Big Green dub. Just an insult to all UK fans.
-The Westwood Ocean dub from the Trunks saga all the way to the Fat Buu saga. Such boring unfitting music and mediocre voice acting. It felt like a generic Saturday morning kids cartoon. Easily just as bad as FUNi's old Captain Ginyu saga except with bad music too. In the Fusion and Kid Buu sagas it became watchable again when they introduced some new pretty good music.
-Blue Water dub GT. Just very bad casting for the most part. Zoe Sulsar was a good Kid Goku though and it kept the Japanese music and was close to being uncut. Plus I liked their English intro song so it did have some redeeming qualities. Their DB dub on the other hand was near great. If only they'd been as good with GT.
-People saying DB sucks and is boring even though it is technically the same series as Z and is what started it all. A criminally underrated series

[DBZAOTA482]

The movies don't get nearly the amount of hate that filler or GT get, yet they were Toei originals as well.

Not even filler gets nearly as much hate as GT.

The movies had better writing then GT. GT had plot holes that were big enough to drive a truck through .

How about big enough to create a small country? According to it, Goku and co. were abusing the dragonballs ever since the first wish.

[SaiyaJedi]

Since this thread seems to have grown much faster than I expected, I suppose I'll jump on the bandwagon:

I hate, hate it when people put words in Akira Toriyama's (or any other staff- or cast-member's) mouth.

"Nuh-uh, Akira [because these people always seem to be on a first-name basis with the man] said [spurious comment either pulled out of thin air or taken from one of the fake interviews floating around]. So THERE."

We're trying to remedy the situation by gathering as much material that Toriyama (and other members of the staff and cast) actually did say into one place, but I suspect that, being so many years after the fact, it will be an uphill battle to say the least.

[TheMightyOzaru]

-People saying Superman would beat Goku in a fight

http://www.screwattack.com/shows/origin ... s-superman
He did and he will continue to do so since the writers dont care about consistency or balancing his character.