DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by Hujio » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:50 am

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Post by Cold Skin » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:07 pm

omegalucas wrote: As for Kaio, have we ever seen him colored in the manga (except in the Kanzenban covers)? If not, I wouldn't be surprised if they stick to the anime colors for these characters that haven't been colored in the manga.
There's a chance they'll do that, but they could also do it like with their digital edition and make up colors of their own (see Gyumao's case).

When it comes to Kaio, he doesn't appear much in Toriyama's artworks, and when he does, he seems to constantly change his color scheme in every single appearance (one artwork in the Daizenshuu, one on the side of the Tankobon collection, and two different versions on the Kanzenban covers - the latest version of him being colored by Toriyama as having the same colors than in the anime).

So it feels normal that they would stick to the anime colors if there's no clear, constant contradiction established by Toriyama at one point or another in the manga.
After all, the anime staff asked for his color schemes when a character never appeared with colors at least once in the manga (if I remember some of his Daizenshuu interviews - translated on Kanzenshuu - correctly).

And now we know one thing: on the contrary of the digital manga edition, they do not change color schemes suddenly when Toriyama did. Instead, they seem to choose one constant color scheme for a character and their clothes.
An exemple of possible consequences would be that if they go back to the beginning of the manga when they are done with the Z/Kai era, Bulma might have purple hair even in chapter 1.

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Post by linkdude20002001 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:10 pm

That's fine with me. I'd prefer her to have purple hair throughout than green hair the whole way through.
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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:31 pm

This is very exciting and, if they do intend to keep the color DB in their magazine up until the end of the series, then I might consider purchasing a subscription. I'll have to download one of them for 99 cents first just to see if it's something that I can use. Actually, could anyone tell me how their digital releases work? Is it in the form of a file that I can actually download and transfer to my Nook color? Is the subscription even compatible with the Nook color? That's the main thing for me because desktop viewing is something that I would rather avoid, and reading comics on an iPhone seems so impractical.

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Post by Puto » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:39 pm

Thanks to Viz's piss-poor security and to a friend, I already have the first chapter of this. I won't be posting it because that'd be plain piracy, but I can answer some questions:

- Piccolo has his manga colours.
- Sound effects are still Japanese.
- It's the old translation with Piccolo speaking in formalese and whatnot.
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Post by Hujio » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Isn't it already "plain piracy" if you were to say, break their security or get it from your friend? But yeah, posting anything like that won't be tolerated on this forum, especially not something legitimately available.
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Post by Puto » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:11 pm

I suppose. Never had any intention to post it in the first place though.
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Post by Cold Skin » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:46 pm

Yeah, posting a whole chapter is out of the question, you'd be giving for free what people should pay for, that doesn't make companies too happy (which is understandable)! :)

However, if I'm not mistaken, posting a few pictures is not illegal, I think you guys have a law which is called "fair use" or something?
The same thing that's on your version of Wikipedia and allows the use of any copyrighted pictures as long as there's not too many and that resolution is limited so that it just illustrates an explanation or a discussion and cannot be used otherwise.
Or maybe if the content is modified so that it's ultimately not the original? I don't really remember the details...

Anyway, we don't need illustrations for now, just explanations should be enough for most cases.
We certainly don't need any picture for revelations such as "[name of the character] has his anime/manga colors", since we know what it looks like.
It might be handy in the future if there are some specific things that are hard to convey with just words (new special effects on Super Saiyan auras or other unexpected stuff like that).

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Post by MagicBox » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:31 pm

Piccolo has his manga colours.
Me like. Truth be told, I was indifferent toward whether the staff would use the anime colors or the (inconsistent) "manga colors." I'd actually like a combination of both. Give me purple-haired Bulma and stuff like that, but when color consistency wasn't followed in the original manga, use the anime colors. It looks like they're doing just that (kinda).
Sound effects are still Japanese.
Sold.

That was really all it took for me. I know it was more-or-less already confirmed, but I will happily rebuy the manga for unedited artwork. It feels so weird/wrong to be excited about minor things like unedited sound effects, unadulterated middle-fingers, uncensored Gohan penis, and untouched guns, but hey, that's DragonBall for you...
It's the old translation with Piccolo speaking in formalese and whatnot.
Bah. Well, the other benefits still make this an improvement.
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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:44 pm

If unedited SFX art means there's a chance for unedited guns and such in later volumes, I am more sold on this release from Viz than I already was.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:05 am

Just ordered mine from CD Japan :) Used SAL to save the most money. How's everyone been with CDJapan's SAL shipping?

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Post by AgitoZ » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:24 am

Kaboom wrote:If unedited SFX art means there's a chance for unedited guns and such in later volumes, I am more sold on this release from Viz than I already was.
Better be buying the digital editions then because if those go unedited I doubt they'll stay that way for individual releases.
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Post by Cold Skin » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:21 pm

Tss, despite the news clearly stating you have to be in the US or Canada to buy it, I had to check for myself that it wasn't possible for a French guy to have it!
That's too bad, I would have gladly bought those issues to have the color chapters.

As I said, since the import is quite a mess, all I needed was a digital release that you pay and have directly transfered on your computer wherever you are...
Well, the option available is more or less that, except for the "wherever you are" part. :roll:

Those scans of Kaioken Goku attacking Vegeta on the Kanzenshuu news, they just seem really great, beautiful in colors!

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:24 pm

So, I made a comparison shot using the images from the official site...

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Seems they're gonna be adding some detail as well. If you look at the bottom image of Goku powering up, there are no shadows on his clothes in the black and white version. In the color version there are. I don't think it's a bad thing, I mean if you just colored it as-is, some of these panels might look a little flat.

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:42 pm

The colored version really loses some punch. :(
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Post by kei17 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:38 pm

JulieYBM wrote:The colored version really loses some punch. :(
It's the generic-looking sky that bothers me.

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Post by oXdanXo » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:08 pm

Puto wrote:Thanks to Viz's piss-poor security and to a friend, I already have the first chapter of this. I won't be posting it because that'd be plain piracy, but I can answer some questions:

- Piccolo has his manga colours.
- Sound effects are still Japanese.
- It's the old translation with Piccolo speaking in formalese and whatnot.
They've got to have decent security, they won't let me buy a subscription because I don't live in the USA / Canada. I want ot hand them $26 a year until they finish DBZ. I've got a question though, how do their digital downloads work, is it a file that has to be used by a specific program or is it something like Adobe PDF where your phone and PC etc can open it. Is there an option to print?
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Post by CashmanX » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:24 pm

kei17 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:The colored version really loses some punch. :(
It's the generic-looking sky that bothers me.
Yeah that bothers me too... Wasn't the sun already starting to set by that time too?
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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by Sapling » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:39 pm

JulieYBM wrote:The colored version really loses some punch. :(
Yeah, it definitely takes a hit in terms of simplistic charm, but that panel with Gohan and Kuririn really comes alive with the added color.

It's different, but I like it.
kei17 wrote:It's the generic-looking sky that bothers me.
And then there's that...

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