DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:11 am

JulieYBM wrote:Well, they're adding color, it's not like they're not already editing his art.
Exactly, and it's not just the color itself. I mean, what do you call the extra lines in the parts of the page that were originally colored in black? :wink:
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:46 am

Would anyone mind throwing up the quote for this?
The Toriyama-answered questions in volumes 2 and 3 deal with the creature-comforts of Saiyan space-pods, and why Kaiō-sama‘s planet is so small (which includes a nod to the upcoming movie)
Thanks!

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRpyge-EgxY
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Post by CashmanX » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:48 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Would anyone mind throwing up the quote for this?
The Toriyama-answered questions in volumes 2 and 3 deal with the creature-comforts of Saiyan space-pods, and why Kaiō-sama‘s planet is so small (which includes a nod to the upcoming movie)
Thanks!

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRpyge-EgxY
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Post by Hujio » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:03 am

CashmanX wrote:If this is anything to go by, the Cell games and the Evil Boo/Fusion stuff are going to be fucking glorious. :o
I'm sure their previews will be just as awesome, too. :P
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:13 pm

So, are we going to get 4 chapters every Tuesday (for each arc), or 1 chapter, starting from the first arc?
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Post by SaiyaJedi » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:46 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, are we going to get 4 chapters every Tuesday (for each arc), or 1 chapter, starting from the first arc?
From the press release, the former appears to be true.
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Post by Kuwabara » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:22 pm

Those 'motion comics' are complete garbage! :clap:

Based off that trailer, I was excited for something akin to what was done with Watchmen: The Complete Motion Comic. Instead, the chapters are poorly composed, poorly timed slide shows accompanied by stock music. This could have been a unique new take on the series, but it just turns out to be like most everything else that's come out in the last decade or so in the realm of Dragon Ball... Cheap or incomplete (or both).
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Post by Cold Skin » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:54 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:Why are all the scouters green?
Because Toriyama never meant for them to be otherwise during the manga's original run, not until the appearance of Dodoria (who wears a blue one on one artwork).
Storywise, Dodoria wears a higher class scouter compared to Zabon, it could explain why all of the Saiyans' fragile scouters are the lower-quality, green shade.

However, this theory could be discarded by the fact that when depicting the Ginyu Commando, he made them all wear green scouters.
Yet for the Kanzenban release, two of its members seem to wear a blue one, but this is left ambiguous since the color can also be interpreted as their blue (Butta) and purple (Ginyu) skin colors influencing the color you see through the glass. Looking closely, don't you seem to catch a glimpse of green? It's debatable, and we'll never know for sure if it's actually blue or if it's green influenced by their blue/purple skin.

Anyway, one thing is sure: Toriyama never drew any red scouter in his artworks, having a clear preference for green and exceptionnally using blue (from one to three times depending on your interpretation of the Kanzenban cover).
Kuwabara wrote:Those 'motion comics' are complete garbage! :clap:

Based off that trailer, I was excited for something akin to what was done with Watchmen: The Complete Motion Comic. Instead, the chapters are poorly composed, poorly timed slide shows accompanied by stock music. This could have been a unique new take on the series, but it just turns out to be like most everything else that's come out in the last decade or so in the realm of Dragon Ball... Cheap or incomplete (or both).
With a one-week delay for four chapters (one for each part), you can't expect the same quality than on the general trailer.
As far as I'm concerned, I'd say those videos save the day, they were just what I needed!

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Post by Fizzer » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:08 pm

So even Freeza had a green scouter?

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Post by Cold Skin » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:55 pm

Fizzer wrote:So even Freeza had a green scouter?
In the original run, it is left unsure since no color artwork or color page shows him with a scouter.

But in this full color edition, he likely has a green one too, although this remained to be checked by someone who has access to volumes showing him with a scouter.
Since one artwork showed Dodoria wearing a blue one, it is unknown if the full-color staff will consider this an exception or if they'll consider that Freezer and Freezer's two henchmen are meant to have blue ones.
Personnally, I think they will consider it an exception given that the Ginyu Commando shows up with green scouters, and make every single scouter green, but we'll see.

EDIT: As shown by Fox666, in the Kanzenban there is one artwork showing him with a green scouter. Although it is likely that the full-color staff won't take Kanzenban covers into account, I do believe they'll make Freezer's scouter green and that it was intended to be this way all along according to Toriyama's vision, even during the original run (although this remains pure hypothesis).
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:28 pm

Freeza's scouter is gonna be green.

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:34 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Well, they're adding color, it's not like they're not already editing his art.
That's a slightly misleading. By adding a color to where Nappa's scouter was supposed to be drawn, it would still be editing his art. And I don't want that. That'd be losing some charm to his original artwork. The WSJ should just leave his art alone and just color the artwork.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:03 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:That's a slightly misleading. By adding a color to where Nappa's scouter was supposed to be drawn, it would still be editing his art. And I don't want that. That'd be losing some charm to his original artwork. The WSJ should just leave his art alone and just color the artwork.
But they are already redrawing a lot of the artwork to begin with. Piccolo's pants are always colored in black for the original manga, but they have to add the folds while coloring...are you mad that those folds may not have been the same as before Toriyama had them colored in by his assistant?
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Post by omegalucas » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:53 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Freeza's scouter is gonna be green.

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And Kuririn's Freeza Forces Armor seems to have the anime colors.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:07 pm

does this addition make one large spine image like the other versions?

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:27 pm

Cold Skin wrote:
Fizzer wrote:So even Freeza had a green scouter?
In the original run, it is left unsure since no color artwork or color page shows him with a scouter.
Not quite. Volume 23 of the tankobon showed Freeza with a scouter, and it is indeed green.

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Post by JeffJarrett » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:33 pm

Cold Skin wrote:Because Toriyama never meant for them to be otherwise during the manga's original run, not until the appearance of Dodoria (who wears a blue one on one artwork).
Raditz wears a blue scouter on the cover of chapter 196:

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Post by Cold Skin » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:37 pm

Whoops, my mistakes, I was completely off track about the scouter thing!! :?
I constantly forget about the Tankobon covers and when searching for scouter artworks, I went straight to Freezer-era artworks (remembering Raditz as a limited pallette when it was actually full color and skipping the Saiyan saga)!
Big failure on my part, but luckily, you guys are there to catch up for this! :)

Well then, I have to admit they could be green or blue alike - although green appears most often, which might have played a part in their choice -, the only thing I can maintain for sure is that there was never any red scouter for Toriyama!... unless someone proves me wrong about that, of course! :wink:

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