Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

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Re: Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:44 am

Neko Majin is a parody of Dragon Ball.

Seriously, I'm not saying that it takes place in the same world, but calling it a parody of DB is like calling the Dr. Slump (remake) a parody of Dragon Ball because it has some Dragon Ball references & cameos.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:36 am

AnzuMazaki wrote:Yeah it does go downhill (not just for Yamcha but for most of the other humans as well especially Lunch, Tenshinhan, Chaozu and the minor characters Goku met during Dragonball etc)

but Yamcha has done stuff to help in Dragonball Z as well, he tried to help fighting the saiyans and Cell, he also helped Goku get to home and then to Roshi's while Goku had the heart virus.

He may have not won, but at least he did try to help the Z-warriors during the saiyan battle and the Cell Games that still counts as something to me, one of the fans he has left.
I like him too even though he serves little more purpose than being pure cannon fodder. One little insignificant fuck that's been getting under my skin for the longest time is Chaozu. Does he ever think about anything other than Tenshinhan?
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

Post by Ninja Murasaki » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:51 pm

I do wonder why some fans are so keen on hating characters like Yamcha? Its not as if they ever did anything cruel or bad in the series, especially compared to the actions of other characters.

Finally, there are other things that matter in the series besides fighting.

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Post by MarCas92 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:11 am

Just 3 things I never want to hear again:

-Japanese voices sound gay/like little girls etc.
-Kid Buu is the strongest Buu.
-OVER 9000!
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:54 am

Ninja Murasaki wrote:I do wonder why some fans are so keen on hating characters like Yamcha? Its not as if they ever did anything cruel or bad in the series, especially compared to the actions of other characters.

Finally, there are other things that matter in the series besides fighting.
It's his overall character and lack of important moments in the story that make him unlikable.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Hmm. I feel he has a very interesting character and several important things to do... and I like him because of that.
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Post by Insertclevername » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:43 am

How is his overall character unlikable? What did he do to deserve hate? Uselessness doesn't count either. Bulma's mom didn't do shit but you don't see jokes about her.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:04 am

-The FUNi Z Dub fixes errors.

I've only heard it twice, and frankly I don't wanna hear it again. Blatant FUNifanboyism there!
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Gonstead » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:16 am

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Re: Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

Post by Sinestro » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:02 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Neko Majin is a parody of Dragon Ball.

Seriously, I'm not saying that it takes place in the same world, but calling it a parody of DB is like calling the Dr. Slump (remake) a parody of Dragon Ball because it has some Dragon Ball references & cameos.

Huh. I thought it was a self-parody of DBZ.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:22 pm

Sinestro wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Neko Majin is a parody of Dragon Ball.

Seriously, I'm not saying that it takes place in the same world, but calling it a parody of DB is like calling the Dr. Slump (remake) a parody of Dragon Ball because it has some Dragon Ball references & cameos.

Huh. I thought it was a self-parody of DBZ.
Not officially.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by SongOfStorms125 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:51 pm

not really a thing I don’t want to hear again but what I hate is:

people who bash or attack fans of a particular version of Dragon Ball.
fans who purposely deceiving each other eg. Dragon Ball Hoshi.
I also hate that reoccurring "i hate the Japanese version of Dragon Ball because Goku is voice by a woman" thing

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Post by Rocketman » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:22 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:-The FUNi Z Dub fixes errors.

I've only heard it twice, and frankly I don't wanna hear it again. Blatant FUNifanboyism there!
It fixed the error over Cell's core. :P

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Post by AgitoZ » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:27 pm

Gonstead wrote:"Dragon Ball was only made to sell merchandise."
It was.

Toriyama originally got into comics to make money and the TV series was made to pimp merchandise.
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Post by JP6GAMER » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:29 pm

Gonstead wrote:"Dragon Ball was only made to sell merchandise."
Every franchise is made for money.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:43 pm

Insertclevername wrote:How is his overall character unlikable? What did he do to deserve hate? Uselessness doesn't count either. Bulma's mom didn't do shit but you don't see jokes about her.
The difference is that there's not much to expect from Bulma's mother whereas Yamcha is supposed to be strong and is one of the main fighters yet he serves little more purpose than to be a human test-dummy.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

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Post by MarCas92 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:12 pm

MarCas92 wrote:Just 3 things I never want to hear again:

-Japanese voices sound gay/like little girls etc.
-Kid Buu is the strongest Buu.
-OVER 9000!
and one more thing....I hate hearing the Bardock and Trunks Specials referred to as "Movies".
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Post by Sinestro » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:37 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Sinestro wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Neko Majin is a parody of Dragon Ball.

Seriously, I'm not saying that it takes place in the same world, but calling it a parody of DB is like calling the Dr. Slump (remake) a parody of Dragon Ball because it has some Dragon Ball references & cameos.

Huh. I thought it was a self-parody of DBZ.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:24 pm

Gonstead wrote:"Dragon Ball was only made to sell merchandise."
You could say that for every franchise that exist.
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Post by Gonstead » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:35 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Gonstead wrote:"Dragon Ball was only made to sell merchandise."
You could say that for every franchise that exist.
Exactly, though the person who said that statement believes Naruto doesn't fall into that category.
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