Unpopular DB opinions

[DBZAOTA482]

The best part of the Majin Buu arc (besides Vegetto) is that Toonami ad with the radio broadcast.

Hell the fuck yes, I love that one. Made me mad hyped for the arc.

Speak of the devil:

- Garlic Jr. Saga > Majin Boo Saga *flame shield on*
- Studio Live isn't that bad of an animation team (bar the Saiyan and Freeza arcs)
- The FUNimation Dub was decent (at least in terms of audio) by the Cell Games
- Saiyan Saga - Early Namek Saga is the best Chi-Chi's ever looked (too bad her looks detoriate afterwards)
- Meyumi Shou is the best casted seiyuu for a female character in Dragon Ball (I wish she returns )
- DBZA is decent at best

[DBZ Mick]

The Boo arc isn't exactly the most tightly woven story arc itself. Aside from adding closure to Goku and Vegeta's rivarly, and everything before Boo was hatched it was a huge clusterfuck of mergers, transformations, and power-ups. Not to mention it's ultimately pointless, and Boo itself wasn't terribly threatening.

I agree but I still prefer the Boo arc.

The Artifical Human/Cell arc had annoying anti-hero Vegeta, an interesting new character who gets shafted almost to the background in the end (Trunks), constant new villians, Toriyama clearly not knowing what to do with them (the Artifical Humans go joy riding... ), Dr. Gero appearing from nowhere and wanting vengence on Goku, Humans with robotic parts being stronger than Freeza/Super Saiyans, Gohan suddenly becoming a pacifist for no reason in the Cell Game, retconning's Freeza's death on Namek, Cell's nucleus..

Cell appearing did make things better though. Love the build up and mystery to him appearing.

I think both arcs have the same issues overall though.

- DBZA is decent at best

Abridged? Yeah, I agree. I used to find it funny, now I just like the voice acting and editing.

[DBZAOTA482]

The Boo arc isn't exactly the most tightly woven story arc itself. Aside from adding closure to Goku and Vegeta's rivarly, and everything before Boo was hatched it was a huge clusterfuck of mergers, transformations, and power-ups. Not to mention it's ultimately pointless, and Boo itself wasn't terribly threatening.

I agree but I still prefer the Boo arc.

The Artifical Human/Cell arc had annoying anti-hero Vegeta, an interesting new character who gets shafted almost to the background in the end (Trunks), constant new villians, Toriyama clearly not knowing what to do with them (the Artifical Humans go joy riding... ), Dr. Gero appearing from nowhere and wanting vengence on Goku, Humans with robotic parts being stronger than Freeza/Super Saiyans, Gohan suddenly becoming a pacifist for no reason in the Cell Game, retconning's Freeza's death on Namek, Cell's nucleus..

Cell appearing did make things better though. Love the build up and mystery to him appearing.

I think both arcs have the same issues overall though.

I guess you can say that..but at least the Artificial Human/Cell arcs sticks to the general storyline of DBZ, and Dr. Gero's appearance was no more random than Freeza's. Not to mention Goku isn't an obnoxious battle-addict like he is in the Boo arc.

[Pretorious]

Personally, I quite like that episode. But I do get your point on how annoying Mr. Satan could be, in the frequency he showed up in the Cell Games episodes. They really did beat that joke into the ground. Still, episode-padding filler. What can you do?

Fair enough. It's actually kind of relieving to hear that someone likes that episode. Me, I like all the episodes where young Gohan is training in the wilderness. I think they're really cute. And Gohan is a super likable character, so I don't get tired of him. I think that's why I didn't like the episode with Satan's pupils. I don't like the characters, so I don't want to spend a whole episode with them.

[Ringworm128]

I don't mind the Bulma and The Crab episode.

[Sinestro]

The English Dragon Boxes are perfect for me. I love the Funi dub, even if it isn't the most accurate. These are the voices I grew up with. But the Japanese music is my music of choice. So to combine that with Funi's dub? Perfection!

[Ringworm128]

While nowadays I prefer the Japanese version I have always preferred Kikuchi's score even when I was first watching the series dubbed. So the Dragonboxes are also perfect for me as they contain the Japanese version and the dub with the music I prefer. That said I have come to appreciate the dub score.

[CashmanX]

The best part of the Majin Buu arc (besides Vegetto) is that Toonami ad with the radio broadcast.

This?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By_e1fuzag0

Yeah. Still awesome.

[Sinestro]

The best part of the Majin Buu arc (besides Vegetto) is that Toonami ad with the radio broadcast.

This?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By_e1fuzag0

Yeah. Still awesome.

Hell yes.

"Sometimes it's darkest just before dawn."

That line is ingrained in my memory because of that commercial.

[Ringworm128]

I didn't grow up with Toonami but those promos make me wish I did they're that flipping awesome.

[Zephyr]

the Artificial Human/Cell arcs sticks to the general storyline of DBZ

What even is the "general storyline of DBZ"?

[DBZ Mick]

but at least the Artificial Human/Cell arcs sticks to the general storyline of DBZ

What do you mean by that?

[DBZAOTA482]

the Artificial Human/Cell arcs sticks to the general storyline of DBZ

What even is the "general storyline of DBZ"?

Goku's unravelling past coming back to haunt him, and all that shit. We've done the dance before so let's not do it again.

[Zephyr]

the Artificial Human/Cell arcs sticks to the general storyline of DBZ

What even is the "general storyline of DBZ"?

Goku's unravelling past coming back to haunt him, and all that shit. We've done the dance before so let's not do it again.

Given how Z starts, I suppose that makes sense. But the "shit coming back to haunt him" really starts with the 23rd TB with Chichi and Piccolo.

And come on, you know you love dancing.

[DBZ Mick]

Think that's why I like the Boo arc somewhat. It feels all fresh (somewhat) again.

[Saiga]

Goku's unravelling past coming back to haunt him, and all that shit. We've done the dance before so let's not do it again.

Sounds more like a theme you're projecting onto the series rather than anything deliberate on Toriyama's end.

[Godo]

Given how Z starts, I suppose that makes sense. But the "shit coming back to haunt him" really starts with the 23rd TB with Chichi and Piccolo.

And come on, you know you love dancing.

I would say even as early as at the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, when the Crane Hermit decides on revenge against Goku after finding out that Goku killed Tao Pai Pai.

Goku's unravelling past coming back to haunt him, and all that shit. We've done the dance before so let's not do it again.

Sounds more like a theme you're projecting onto the series rather than anything deliberate on Toriyama's end.

One thing we have for certain is the line about Goku attracting evil guys. It's not the same thing, though.

[DBZAOTA482]

Think that's why I like the Boo arc somewhat. It feels all fresh (somewhat) again.

Yeah, I got well over that point. Now I think the main problem with the arc is that it solidifies DBZ's status quo "If you're not Saiyan, you're not worth shit". They became so strong that even the main antagonist had to steal one of them in order to stand a chance. Likewise Majin Boo should have been defeated at several occasions but the plot was contrived to prevent it at the last second, diluting any hope for a climax and leaving the plot being little more than just a conglomeration of x form vs y form.

Given how Z starts, I suppose that makes sense. But the "shit coming back to haunt him" really starts with the 23rd TB with Chichi and Piccolo.

[Saiga]

Dunno how the Boo arc is any worse than the others in the "no Saiyan = no importance" aspect.

[DBZAOTA482]

Dunno how the Boo arc is any worse than the others in the "no Saiyan = no importance" aspect.

It was to the point where it's almost as though the Saiyan's own carelessness was their enemy rather than Majin Boo himself. In the previous arc, which started the whole Saiyan dominance there was at least still a great wall for them to overcome. In the Boo arc, they just kept jumping it and jumping it until they came across the thinnest wall possible.

Anyways in the Saiyan Saga, everyone got to chip in and play their roles. No one was truly above the other. Out of all story arcs, it had the best overall use of a cast.