Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

[Pantalones]

This also leads me to believe that Super Saiyan God is a higher multiplication than SSJ4, which was only 10x SSJ3.

There's no "official" power multiplier for SSj4. There's tons of different fan-made guesses out there, ranging from 500x base (just a combination of Super Saiyan and Oozaru) all the way up to 4000x base (10x SSj3 like you mentioned), but none of them come from anything but the fans trying to figure out what the boost for SSj4 might be.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

The SEG seems to suggest Vegetto is Goku x Vegeta. That's well over a difference of 50x IMO.

Based on my own personal power level list I put together, I have Gogeta/Gotenks at 100x base, and Vegetto at 1000x base. This seems to be the best multiplier I can come up with for fusions. Anything else doesn't make sense, or at least in my mind.

I got it to make sense.

I tried the Goku x Vegeta theory, doesn't work. Even if by the end of the Buu saga they were still 120 million base, that came up to 14,400,000,000,000,000 which is barely even a NUMBER!

hahaha

And this is also further proof that SSJ multiplier does NOT decrease. If SSJ was like 5x or 10x base, then Goku x Vegeta for fusion would have a power level way higher than Omega Shenron at base form, without transforming. I'm not even gonna go there

[TheMightyOzaru]

I tried the Goku x Vegeta theory, doesn't work. Even if by the end of the Buu saga they were still 120 million base, that came up to 14,400,000,000,000,000 which is barely even a NUMBER!

hahaha

I have Goku and Vegeta both at 2,000,000,000. Base Vegetto IMO is 4,000,000,000,000,000,000. 200,000,000,000,000,000,000 as a SSJ. I have no trouble believing base Vegetto stomps the likes of SSJ4 Gogeta. This is the fusion method of the gods after all.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

This also leads me to believe that Super Saiyan God is a higher multiplication than SSJ4, which was only 10x SSJ3.

There's no "official" power multiplier for SSj4. There's tons of different fan-made guesses out there, ranging from 500x base (just a combination of Super Saiyan and Oozaru) all the way up to 4000x base (10x SSj3 like you mentioned), but none of them come from anything but the fans trying to figure out what the boost for SSj4 might be.

I thought the Daizenshuu had some sort of official multiplier for each form, like SSJ > 50x, SSJ2 > 2x, SSJ3 > 4x (I believe SSJ3 to be 5x), then SSJ4 > 10x..

Although since GT was not directed by Akira himself. I figured there doesn't need to be anything official on SSJ4. SSJ4 IMO is BS.

[Saiga]

This also leads me to believe that Super Saiyan God is a higher multiplication than SSJ4, which was only 10x SSJ3.

There's no "official" power multiplier for SSj4. There's tons of different fan-made guesses out there, ranging from 500x base (just a combination of Super Saiyan and Oozaru) all the way up to 4000x base (10x SSj3 like you mentioned), but none of them come from anything but the fans trying to figure out what the boost for SSj4 might be.

Hey, it doesn't stop at 4,000! I go all the way up to 40,000 for the multiplier (10x Golden Oozaru which I think is 10x SS3).

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

This also leads me to believe that Super Saiyan God is a higher multiplication than SSJ4, which was only 10x SSJ3.

There's no "official" power multiplier for SSj4. There's tons of different fan-made guesses out there, ranging from 500x base (just a combination of Super Saiyan and Oozaru) all the way up to 4000x base (10x SSj3 like you mentioned), but none of them come from anything but the fans trying to figure out what the boost for SSj4 might be.

Hey, it doesn't stop at 4,000! I go all the way up to 40,000 for the multiplier (10x Golden Oozaru which I think is 10x SS3).

SSJ God may even top that

Considering I have Super Vegito and SSJ3 Gotenks both at 50,000x multiplier. And if Bills surpasses this area of strength.... go figure ^_^

[Rocketman]

oh yeah well i have 1303056145215448715478417498148185296412094094209430404049040249520450459430472093045079180800040749846527280211582902152670154182184562007245012565 so clearly herp derp pbbt

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

oh yeah well i have 1303056145215448715478417498148185296412094094209430404049040249520450459430472093045079180800040749846527280211582902152670154182184562007245012565 so clearly herp derp pbbt

I wonder what part of DBAF that is?

[Herms]

oh yeah well i have 1303056145215448715478417498148185296412094094209430404049040249520450459430472093045079180800040749846527280211582902152670154182184562007245012565 so clearly herp derp pbbt

Cut this shit out. You've made a lot of disrespectful posts lately.

[Bussani]

I thought the Daizenshuu had some sort of official multiplier for each form, like SSJ > 50x, SSJ2 > 2x, SSJ3 > 4x (I believe SSJ3 to be 5x), then SSJ4 > 10x..

The Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, and Super Saiyan 3 multipliers you listed are from the Super Exciting Guides (although the regular Super Saiyan one was in the Daizenshuu before that). There's never been an officially given Super Saiyan 4 multiplier. Ten times Super Saiyan 3 is what ScrewAttack went with for their Superman vs. Goku video, which they came up with based on suggestions and information from us, but it's not official.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

I thought the Daizenshuu had some sort of official multiplier for each form, like SSJ > 50x, SSJ2 > 2x, SSJ3 > 4x (I believe SSJ3 to be 5x), then SSJ4 > 10x..

The Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, and Super Saiyan 3 multipliers you listed are from the Super Exciting Guides (although the regular Super Saiyan one was in the Daizenshuu before that). There's never been an officially given Super Saiyan 4 multiplier. Ten times Super Saiyan 3 is what ScrewAttack went with for their Superman vs. Goku video, which they came up with based on suggestions and information from us, but it's not official.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the input.

And regarding that video, ScrewAttack should have waited for this movie to come out first; as Super Saiyan God just perhaps could match Superman's strength!

[miguelnuva1]

Sorry for bumping an old topic but the official multiplier for SSJ4 is said to be a Potential Unlock. The Perfect files on GT says SSJ4 brings a saiyan's power to his uppermost limit.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Sorry for bumping an old topic but the official multiplier for SSJ4 is said to be a Potential Unlock. The Perfect files on GT says SSJ4 brings a saiyan's power to his uppermost limit.

Not really a "multiplier". Anyway, the Daizenshu stated that Super Saiyan 3 "draws the hidden power of a Saiyan out to its limit", and that was later revealed to just be Super Saiyan 2's power x4 in the Super Exciting Guides.

[Kaboom]

Yeah, I think in both cases it's just a generic description which really means little more than "this is the strongest Super Saiyan form."

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yeah, I think in both cases it's just a generic description which really means little more than "this is the strongest Super Saiyan form."

I'm not sure what the 4th Chozenshu actually says, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Super Saiyan3's Daizenshu entry was overlooked when Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan God were added in (though I'd hope they'd actually amend it to feature the x4 multiplier). I suppose it is possible that the entries for all three forms say some reworded version of the same "drawing out all potential to the limit" thing. =P

[TheGmGoken]

Wait that's a plot hole for Birshu being the strongest being in Dbz. If I'm correct Whis > Bills.

[hleV]

Wait that's a plot hole for Birshu being the strongest being in Dbz. If I'm correct Whis > Bills.

Yeah. If they they say that Beerus is the strongest guy in the history of Z while it's obvious that Whis is stronger, I don't see why can't that apply to Vegetto as well. Perhaps they meant strongest foe, as Whis isn't technically a foe (and neither is Vegetto).

[TheMightyOzaru]

Is Whis part of the history of Z? No? Well then, it's not a contradiction .

[TheGmGoken]

Is Whis part of the history of Z? No? Well then, it's not a contradiction .

Dragonball Z Battle of Gods/ Dragonball Z God and God. I see Dbz in the title. It's a continuation of the manga so it's apart of Z's history as well. If you're using your logic then Birshu wasn't in history of Z either because Birshu made his screen debut at the same time as Whis. Saying Whis is not apart of the history of Z is like saying Goku Jr is not apart of the history of DBGT.

[Draken]

I just take that to mean thus far and they didn't want to reveal the plot twist about Whis. Beers and Whis are introduced in the promos, they say Beers will be the strongest in the history of Z. Contradicted in the movie by the fact that Whis > Beers and there are other GoD's that may or may not be stronger than Beers. So to me it's obvious they just meant thus far.