Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:31 am

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Master Turbo » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:36 am

Saiga wrote:I can't see how it would be a deliberate choice when he appears that way in the trailers. Promotional art I could buy, but definitely not actual footage that's supposed to be from the film.
The fact some fan had to point it out just goes to show they had no clue and pretty much forget it altogether and that's kind of sad to be honest. I honestly wish no one said anything about it so that it would have been left totally unexplained why he's a SSJ in the movie just like GT. The fan outcry would be hilarious to see.

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Post by Herms » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:38 am

I'll bet Goku isn't even in this movie at all, and they just inserted him for the sake of previews and promotional images.
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Post by sintzu » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:39 am

now that we know Gohan is mystic what about Vegeta ? is he ssj or ssj2 ?

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i say ssj2 cause the arrow like aura and the spiky hair
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:46 am

So Yusuke Watanabe didn't know about SSJ Gohan appearing in the trailer then? It sounds like he didn't, or he hasn't got control of what goes in the posters and trailers.

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Post by MCDaveG » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:56 am

I still think they are lying and got that wrong until fans started bitching towards them, which I'm gratefull for. This movie will now fit to my mangaverse!
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Post by Cold Skin » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:56 am

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Saiga wrote:I can't see how it would be a deliberate choice when he appears that way in the trailers. Promotional art I could buy, but definitely not actual footage that's supposed to be from the film.
The fact some fan had to point it out just goes to show they had no clue and pretty much forget it altogether and that's kind of sad to be honest.
I don't know, that seems kinda of too HUGE a mistake for me to think that.
If everyone jumped at Toriyama for C-18's hairstyle saying "NO!!! What are you doing, she's not like that!!!", I can't imagine out of all the staff - how many are they, 100, 200, 300 people maybe? - no one would be able to point out what any fan could point out.

Much like that super shot of the Goku in the middle of nowhere like we saw at the start, there may have been sequences of movie totally created/modifed just for promotionnal purposes.
You do what you gotta do to bring people in theaters, even if you have to create alternative scenes of movies to fake-show them "look at everyone turning into that well-known blond form you know about even when you're not familiar with the franchise!! If everyone turns like that at the same time, the situation must be pretty serious!!!"

But hey, we'll never know, you might be right, maybe it WAS a mistake and they did have to perform an emergency correction given massive fan backlash.
It seems unlikely to me, but it is indeed a possibility!
If that's the case, it proves they truly want fans to feel that it's 100% compatible with the manga, removing any element that could bring doubt upon it!

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Master Turbo » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:14 am

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Master Turbo wrote:
Saiga wrote:I can't see how it would be a deliberate choice when he appears that way in the trailers. Promotional art I could buy, but definitely not actual footage that's supposed to be from the film.
The fact some fan had to point it out just goes to show they had no clue and pretty much forget it altogether and that's kind of sad to be honest.
I don't know, that seems kinda of too HUGE a mistake for me to think that.
If everyone jumped at Toriyama for C-18's hairstyle saying "NO!!! What are you doing, she's not like that!!!", I can't imagine out of all the staff - how many are they, 100, 200, 300 people maybe? - no one would be able to point out what any fan could point out.
To be perfectly honest, I can see why people would make that mistake. Its pretty easy to explain why no one caught it until recently. Now if someone could kindly point out to Watanabe to fix the Goku in space scenes then we are all good to go, muhahahahahaha.
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Post by soulnova » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:14 am

Cold Skin wrote:
You do what you gotta do to bring people in theaters, even if you have to create alternative scenes of movies to fake-show them "look at everyone turning into that well-known blond form you know about even when you're not familiar with the franchise!! If everyone turns like that at the same time, the situation must be pretty serious!!!"
That didn't work out very good in the end for Alien Colonial Marines. :roll:

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Post by Cold Skin » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:24 am

Master Turbo wrote: Now if someone could kindly point out to Watanabe to fix the Goku in space scenes then we are all good to go, muhahahahahaha.
Well, some fans consider that it's normal to be in space for a while for a Saiyan because Bardack was included in the manga as being in space.
But of couse, some other fans consider it is totally impossible (especially for an extended time like a long fight), and that Bardack's example can be explained by some sort of air conduct linking the ship to the planet, allowing troops to invade it - and also making them able to speak, cause it's hard to pronunce word without air coming from the lungs! :wink:

You know, if it is not explained in the movie and if fans are unhappy about it, I'm pretty sure the staff - or maybe even the fans themselves - will come up with the following explanation:
since Goku has acquired the status of God, that gives him the possibility to be in space without any problem like Birus, regardless of whether he's transformed into Super Saiyan God or not. 8)

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Post by Fox666 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:27 am

All that reminds me of how Gohan hair was poorly recolored in one of the Budokai openings.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:30 am

It's good to hear that Gohan is mystic in the movie. At least people can shut up about it for once.
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Post by NeoKING » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:39 am

Cold Skin wrote:Obviously
It wasn't obvious to everyone, seeing how people felt the need to create entire threads on the topic or had theories that it was to connect this movie with GT for whatever reason.

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Post by soulnova » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:42 am

Cold Skin wrote: since Goku has acquired the status of God, that gives him the possibility to be in space without any problem like Birus, regardless of whether he's transformed into Super Saiyan God or not. 8)
I like the way you think. 8)
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Post by Master Turbo » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:48 am

Cold Skin wrote:
Master Turbo wrote: Now if someone could kindly point out to Watanabe to fix the Goku in space scenes then we are all good to go, muhahahahahaha.
Well, some fans consider that it's normal to be in space for a while for a Saiyan because Bardack was included in the manga as being in space.
But of couse, some other fans consider it is totally impossible (especially for an extended time like a long fight), and that Bardack's example can be explained by some sort of air conduct linking the ship to the planet, allowing troops to invade it - and also making them able to speak, cause it's hard to pronunce word without air coming from the lungs! :wink:

You know, if it is not explained in the movie and if fans are unhappy about it, I'm pretty sure the staff - or maybe even the fans themselves - will come up with the following explanation:
since Goku has acquired the status of God, that gives him the possibility to be in space without any problem like Birus, regardless of whether he's transformed into Super Saiyan God or not. 8)
Actually, comparing Bardock's position to real life he's actually in between the stratosphere and stratopause in his usual depictions so not actually outer space, but a lot of people make that mistake. Actually, it could be argued that Bardock is just fine where he is due to his planet having a much higher gravity than Earth meaning Vegeta has an atmosphere that extends much further out into space compared Earth due to escape its gravitational pull. Goku's position in all the trailers and clips seen so far is somewhere in the stratosphere since he's still close to the Earth (relatively speaking) in the background so he technically shouldn't have much problem if at all near that part of our atmosphere to be honest. Now if Goku's hanging out with Birusu further out in space like at the edge of the exosphere for instance then Watanabe has some serious explaining to do.

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Post by sbk » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:52 am

Master Turbo wrote:
Saiga wrote:I can't see how it would be a deliberate choice when he appears that way in the trailers. Promotional art I could buy, but definitely not actual footage that's supposed to be from the film.
The fact some fan had to point it out just goes to show they had no clue and pretty much forget it altogether and that's kind of sad to be honest. I honestly wish no one said anything about it so that it would have been left totally unexplained why he's a SSJ in the movie just like GT. The fan outcry would be hilarious to see.
I expected it from Toei but not from Toriyama. Sad indeed.

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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:59 am

sbk wrote:
Master Turbo wrote:I expected it from Toei but not from Toriyama. Sad indeed.
I expected it from Toriyama, he's usually quite forgetful.

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:10 pm

At some points Goku was the strongest. At some points Vegeta was the strongest. At some points Piccolo was the strongest. At some points Gotenks was the strongest. At some points Gohan was the strongest.

This is likely no different, and if it's something you're going to get hung up on, you can rock back and forth in a corner with Volume 42 of the manga all by yourself while the rest of the community enjoys the movie! :)
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Post by Sanity's_Theif » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:22 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:Goku will be stronger than Ultimate Gohan in this movie.. :shifty:
Seems like it, we're gonna have a direct canon comparison between Mystic Gohan's and SSJ3 Goku's fighting ability, I never thought they were far off to begin with

What I REALLY wanna see, is Vegeta make it to SSJ3, seriously, the biggest thing to happen with Dragonball in forever that legitimately continues the story, and Vegeta is still stuck at where we last saw him? WTF, that sucks

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