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How violent will the new movie be?
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MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
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403 forbiddenGonstead wrote:http://i19.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/ ... -70038.jpgNex Carnifex wrote:And I can't see the picture...
I looked it up myself...lol, totally for kids
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:LNex Carnifex wrote:403 forbiddenGonstead wrote:http://i19.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/ ... -70038.jpgNex Carnifex wrote:And I can't see the picture...
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/joshdama ... -70038.jpg
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MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
Re: How violent will the new movie be?
I'd say JAWS is as violent. Kid dies in an explosion of blood, guy's head with popped eye appears to someone, a guy's leg is shown ripped off and floating down to the sea floor, Quint coughs up a massive amount of blood when the shark bites through him.I have and that wasn't as violent unless you considered bloody water violent which IS in Dragon Ball and isn't anywhere close to the most gruesome parts.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.
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Was only present in the Manga, not in the Anime.Nex Carnifex wrote:
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MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
There are many equally disturbing scenes in the anime, like the one right after this where Gero shoves his arm through Yamcha's chest causing a lot of blood to spill out of him when he takes it out.Gonstead wrote:Was only present in the Manga, not in the Anime.Nex Carnifex wrote:
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
Rated R, because of the animated birth.
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
IIRC we don't actually see blood spill out of him, only Gero's arm go through the back of Yamcha with a little blood on Gero's hand.Nex Carnifex wrote:There are many equally disturbing scenes in the anime, like the one right after this where Gero shoves his arm through Yamcha's chest causing a lot of blood to spill out of him when he takes it out.Gonstead wrote:Was only present in the Manga, not in the Anime.Nex Carnifex wrote:
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MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
Not in the anime, should I get the video?
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Okay, so there is a bit of blood when Gero pulls his arm out.
Even then though, I'd find the scene from the Manga more violent than what Gero did to Yamcha and not because I'm making a Yamcha joke either.
Even then though, I'd find the scene from the Manga more violent than what Gero did to Yamcha and not because I'm making a Yamcha joke either.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svslPIbJD0cGonstead wrote:Okay, so there is a bit of blood when Gero pulls his arm out.
Even then though, I'd find the scene from the Manga more violent than what Gero did to Yamcha and not because I'm making a Yamcha joke either.
there's a lot of blood right after he pulls out his hand...
And the nature of the fights isn't really PG either, characters regularly get their necks snapped, impaled, tortured, body parts ripped off, insides blown up, crushed, sucked out. heads blown off...I don't know I just feel all the shit that they get away with since its a cartoon would probably earn a live action movie depicting it PG-13...or R is they really kept every detail. Really you can take any fight, but just look towards the end of the first fight against Vegeta, everyone is covered in blood, its fine since its all animated, but in live action it would be a lot more grotesque, especially with little children (Gohan) included in on the violence.
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
When was Dragon Ball ever violent to begin with? Punches and kicks equal violence? It was either training or self-defence.
Note: Except the very few times of Freeza, Androids and Cell's small violent scenes.
Note: Except the very few times of Freeza, Androids and Cell's small violent scenes.
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
Nah, I don't think so. DBKai had edited the scenes with too much blood, and from what I've seen in the Naruto & One Piece anime compared to the manga versions (and from what I've heard about others), Japan has changed since the 80s/90s when Dragon Ball/Z/GT was airing, there is less violence in the anime series nowadays.
dbboxkaifan wrote:When was Dragon Ball ever violent to begin with? Punches and kicks equal violence?
Nex Carnifex wrote:In every battle, the fighters always ended up dripping with red. I also recall many scenes of violence, Raditz and Goku getting impaled, Tenshinhan's arm getting ripped off, Goku's ribs getting crushed, children getting killed by Freeza, Vegeta sticking his hand in Zarbon's stomach, Recoome snapping Gohan's neck plus his brutal beating of Vegeta, Freeza impaling Kuririn with his horn (which was made unnecessarily brutal in the original anime), Freeza torturing Vegeta, Freeza getting sliced into pieces, Yamcha getting impaled by Gero's arm and then having his guts spill out, Vegeta getting his neck snapped, Cell sucking out people's insides, etc. (there's plenty more I don't feel like going over the entire series)
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
Freeza was just disposing of green midget Piccolos.
Anyway, Dragon Ball isn't nowhere violent as is Ichi the Killer or Ninja Scroll, for example.
You people are so darn sensitive, gosh.
Anyway, Dragon Ball isn't nowhere violent as is Ichi the Killer or Ninja Scroll, for example.
You people are so darn sensitive, gosh.
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
For a kids show, it's very violent (and I like that). The fact that other series are more violent than this doesn't mean anything.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
In Japan it's a kids cartoon, whereas internationally they rated it for teens and adults.
Even that poor Sonic Unleashed in Japan was CERO-A and the western rated it as 7+. The game sucked anyway (The Werehog missions).
Even that poor Sonic Unleashed in Japan was CERO-A and the western rated it as 7+. The game sucked anyway (The Werehog missions).
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I don't understand this anti-violence thinking. We were watching Stallone and Schwarzenneger as kids, not Barney and friends.
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Re: How violent will the new movie be?
I'm gonna agree with Nex on this one, for a PG the anime is pretty violent, obviously not as gruesomely animated as anime aimed at the older teens and stuff, but still! And since when were PG's allowed to say bastard? xD
But, I like it at the degree of violence it is at, not too much not too little. A guy can get his arm punched OFF and the viewers don't have to grit their teeth watching his tendons snap and hearing his bones break. I think Dragon Ball moderates nicely with out it seeming ridiculous.
But, I like it at the degree of violence it is at, not too much not too little. A guy can get his arm punched OFF and the viewers don't have to grit their teeth watching his tendons snap and hearing his bones break. I think Dragon Ball moderates nicely with out it seeming ridiculous.
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Nex Carnifex wrote:Because Dragon Ball is mostly about action, so things like blood are necessary to give an impact to the visuals and make watching it grittier and thus more entertaining. Don't give me this bullshit about "violence doesn't matter, language doesn't matter, graphics don't matter" if nothing fucking mattered I'd read the summary on Wikipedia and be done with it.
Let me give you an example, if Fullmetal Alchemist had no blood, do you think people would give as much of a shit about it as they do? The answer is no, and the reason goes beyond "FMA fans are immature children that like bloody shit", no, the level of violence is actually important in drama and action comics and animation, it taps into a primitive sense of danger, excitement, fear, and despair that we have since when you get hit really hard, blasted with deadly energy, or cut in half you bleed, that's how it is in the real world and according to the manga and anime that's how it is in the Dragon Ball world as well.
I'm just hoping this movie isn't dumbed down to appease the "fragile" minds of small children who don't need to be protected in a world where kids have access to the internet anyway. If this movie lacks the level of action of Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, or even Dragon Ball Kai I will be very disappointed and worried about the future of the franchise.
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I find sentiments such as this to be just as silly as people who freak out about their being too much violence in DB/Z.
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