Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Post by Saitou Hajime » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:17 pm

The God tells Goku to come at him with his full power. Goku revs up to Super Saiyan 3. Uisu is mildly impressed, and Birusu instructs Goku to come at him — Goku is surprised they are not taken aback. Goku comes flying in with a punch, and there is a large explosion… but when the smoke clears, the God is effortlessly holding Goku’s fist in his hand. Birusu flicks Goku in the forehead, sending him tumbling around Kaiō’s planet.
So I guess this is how SSJ3 Goku charging Bils from the second trailer and the latter holding the former off with a finger play out, but given the scene from the third trailer of SSJ3 Goku rapid fisticuffing Bils I doubt he gets put down as easily as the SD version paints it as. Although the petty part of me does hope it is that easy as it serves my own trivial agenda :twisted:

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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:29 pm

It's easy to tell that Goku is SSJ2, but seeing as they've ditched the bio-electricity how will we be able to tell if Vegeta is? :|
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also Vegeta's expression in this picture is pretty ambiguous :/
I don't think Shenlong can give Goku that ability, I think they could wish to find out about the SSJG, and how to become it, but that's about it IMO. Also that picture is epic, that looks like it solved the WCF mystery then.

Metalwario64 wrote:Or just not in that shot. It's not as if he has to be in every single shot.
Oh I completely agree, I was just giving a couple of examples to show that we don't know anything about that particular scene. :)

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Post by Chuquita » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:37 pm

Silkman3003 wrote:So uhhh...were the scans in this video already posted?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0EXFpbXr4A

Edit:(I assume the original source for the scans was 2ch or something? Regardless, here they are in imgur.

http://i.imgur.com/r8mKsSS.jpg?1?9704

http://i.imgur.com/U17er7K.jpg?1
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*Needs to translate that blurb beside his overly-cheerful face*. I have a feeling it's probably a summary of what was already mentioned though; about Kaio-sama telling him about Birusu and Vegeta having to try desperately to keep Birusu from getting angry.

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How much I can't wait to see this Birusu and Vegeta scene play out.
Just how far will Birusu push Vegeta's "hospitality"? What sorts of ridiculous stuff is Vegeta going to have to try and force himself to do in order to keep the galaxy from behind destroyed? XD And what'll finally make him snap as he is shown fighting Birusu at the party later on.
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Post by Zephyr » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:10 pm

My theory on the Dragon Balls being there:

Part of the gang gathered them for Bulma to make a wish on for her birthday. Pilaf and gang show up to try and snatch them easily.

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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:23 pm

Oh yeah. I like that theory, it explains why the Pilaf gang show up really well. :clap:

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:30 pm

Vegeta trying to keep Bils happy is hilarious. It reminds me of the episode of Courage The Cowardly Dog, when Courage has to keep Eustace calm so he doesn't blow anything up which was a side affect of the hair growth ointment he was using lmao.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:37 pm

Zephyr wrote:My theory on the Dragon Balls being there:

Part of the gang gathered them for Bulma to make a wish on for her birthday. Pilaf and gang show up to try and snatch them easily.
Eh, I'm not saying they aren't going with that, but I don't really like it. It would be a gross misuse of the orbs after Elder Kaioshin's warning about how they go against the natural order of things. I'd much prefer that Goku sought out the Si Xing Qui again and just gathered the other orbs to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands. Them being on display could just be because of how they basically started the whole chain of events that brought the gang together.
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Post by penguintruth » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:40 pm

"Hey this Egyptian cat guy is eating the cake!"

"Uh... he's a f-friend of mine! I invited him. Met him in... space. We uh... we went to n-night school together."

"Now he's sodomizing Oolong!"

"Yeah... uh, well, h-he does that. It's how he says hello. G-great job, Birusu-s-sama!"
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:44 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:It's easy to tell that Goku is SSJ2, but seeing as they've ditched the bio-electricity how will we be able to tell if Vegeta is? :|
by the cooler of the hair

if it's a light yellow when transforming or charging ki then it's ssj :

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... BoG%29.png
http://dbznews.webs.com/t640_602498.jpg

if it's a dark yellow than it's ssj2

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 5600_n.jpg
http://im32.gulfup.com/XSSvZ.jpg
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... tomach.png

other than that whene in ssj2 the aura is an arrow like whene transforming of charging ki unlike the ssj1 wich is a firay like aura + the hair is more spiky in ssj2 than ssj wich is a lot more smother

ssj vegeta
http://manga.animea.net/dragon-ball-cha ... age-9.html
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http://manga.animea.net/dragon-ball-cha ... age-2.html
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:03 pm

I know about the aura difference, but I'm unsure if the movie will show that. Also if you look at Majin Vegeta before he becomes SSJ2 his hair looks practically the same. Toriyama's style seems to change after the Cell arc so it's hard to tell later if Vegeta is SSJ or SSJ2 just from the hair.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:03 pm

Now that we know how ridiculously easily Bills defeats SS3 Goku, I don't think those who believe that SS3 Goku > U. Gohan will get a chance to prove it through the movies events.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:09 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I know about the aura difference, but I'm unsure if the movie will show that. Also if you look at Majin Vegeta before he becomes SSJ2 his hair looks practically the same. Toriyama's style seems to change after the Cell arc so it's hard to tell later if Vegeta is SSJ or SSJ2 just from the hair.
if vegeta is going to go all out aginst bilis from the start like goku than he will be an ssj2 (until he reaches ssj3 later in the movie)

and if we cant tell wown't the new daizenshuu books say wich form he used whene he fought bilis ?
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:10 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Now that we know how ridiculously easily Bills defeats SS3 Goku, I don't think those who believe that SS3 Goku > U. Gohan will get a chance to prove it through the movies events.
He is still putting up a better fight as we see later. Goku likely isn't stronger with only2 years but who can really say.
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:17 pm

sintzu wrote:
Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I know about the aura difference, but I'm unsure if the movie will show that. Also if you look at Majin Vegeta before he becomes SSJ2 his hair looks practically the same. Toriyama's style seems to change after the Cell arc so it's hard to tell later if Vegeta is SSJ or SSJ2 just from the hair.
if vegeta is going to go all out aginst bilis from the start like goku than he will be an ssj2 (until he reaches ssj3 later in the movie)

and if we cant tell wown't the new daizenshuu books say wich form he used whene he fought bilis ?
I really hope he does, it would seem really stupid not too.

The Chozenshuu may say, but It's hard to say, especially considering the vast majority of it is from the Daizenshuu.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:21 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:He is still putting up a better fight as we see later.
Bills defeated Goku with just a flick of his finger.

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Which means that Goku fought better than Gohan because Bills wanted to. He was playing with Goku, but not with Gohan.

Besides, we haven't seen almost anything from any of the fights, and people still come & say that "X fought better than Y in the new movie"? Really?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:22 pm

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sintzu wrote:
Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I know about the aura difference, but I'm unsure if the movie will show that. Also if you look at Majin Vegeta before he becomes SSJ2 his hair looks practically the same. Toriyama's style seems to change after the Cell arc so it's hard to tell later if Vegeta is SSJ or SSJ2 just from the hair.
if vegeta is going to go all out aginst bilis from the start like goku than he will be an ssj2 (until he reaches ssj3 later in the movie)

and if we cant tell wown't the new daizenshuu books say wich form he used whene he fought bilis ?
I really hope he does, it would seem really stupid not too.

The Chozenshuu may say, but It's hard to say, especially considering the vast majority of it is from the Daizenshuu.
seing as how it takes place after the buu arc and is mostly writin by toryama i'd say he will go ssj2 from the start like how goku went ssj3

the old info might be from the dizenshuu but the battle of gods info will be all new
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Post by TheRed259 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:24 pm

@DBZGTKOSDH Don't count that much on those DragonBall SD pages .

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Post by Silkman3003 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:29 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:He is still putting up a better fight as we see later.
Bills defeated Goku with just a flick of his finger.

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Which means that Goku fought better than Gohan because Bills wanted to. He was playing with Goku, but not with Gohan.

Besides, we haven't seen almost anything from any of the fights, and people still come & say that "X fought better than Y in the new movie"? Really?
People are saying that because we already see in the newer trailer that SSJ/SSJ2 Goku and Birusu actually exchange blows against each other(we know that their first battle was on king kai's planet), and the fact that Birusu resorts to using a supernova like attack against SSJ/SSJ2 Goku in space , instead of just stomping him like he did earlier. That and the much focus to his SSJ form. The guy who supposedly stomps SSJ3 Goku with a finger, now resorts to using large scale attacks, and that isn't the least bit suspect? Unless Goku has a death wish and he's a moron, there's no reason for him to fight him again, alone, unless he feels that he's powered up. And this certainly is not out of the realm of possibility and is starting to become more likely, if it hasn't already.

Unless you're strictly arguing SSJ3 Goku vs Gohan. And using this version of goku before he fought Bills again to call out people who thought that Buu Saga SSJ3 goku is superior. Which shouldn't even be a debate since he already admitted inferiority to Base Super Buu.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:36 pm

TheRed259 wrote:@DBZGTKOSDH Don't count that much on those DragonBall SD pages .
Knowing SD's nature, everything except from the SD gags will most likely make it in the movie.
Silkman3003 wrote:People are saying that because we already see in the newer trailer that SSJ/SSJ2 Goku and Birusu actually exchange blows against each other(we know that their first battle was on king kai's planet), and the fact that Birusu resorts to using a supernova like attack against SSJ/SSJ2 Goku in space , instead of just stomping him like he did earlier. That and the much focus to his SSJ form.

Unless you're strictly arguing SSJ3 Goku vs Gohan. And using this version of goku before he fought Bills again.
I'm not talking about the final battle in space, since there is obviously something strange with Goku & the whole Super Saiyan God thing. I'm talking exclusively about the first fight, which is Boo arc SS3 Goku + 2 years training.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:37 pm

I think its safe to say that Bils is "playing" with everyone other than SSJGod. So its too early and too hard to tell who's stronger than who between Goku and Gohan at this point when they are both being toyed with by the same villain.

He flicks Goku away with a finger but throws punches and kicks at Vegeta, so I guess SSJ Vegeta is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
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