Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:44 am

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Ssj God isn't temporary. Goku can use it's powers while in his ssj state.
Only in his SSJ state? Not while in SSJ3? way to make that form even more useless, way to make Vegeta even more useless, damn, I imagine Vegeta gets SSJ3 eventually but why would they still have him so far behind?
I would imagine the ssj states past ssj are the improper way of extending the ssj power. Ssj God isn't exactly exclusive to Goku so Vegeta could attain it.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:46 am

Whatever we've learned so far sounds awesome! :D
Sani wrote:I hope, this isn't just a movie, but a pilot for a new series.
In all honestly, that's exactly what it feels like to me.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:46 am

Sani wrote:I hope, this isn't just a movie, but a pilot for a new series.
it is

it's called dragon ball gt
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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:46 am

I doubt this is for a new comic or TV series. We'll be lucky if Toriyama is up for a new film every one or two years.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:46 am

Kaboom wrote:
Master Turbo wrote:Though I have to ask Kei, do Pilaf and gang stay as kids or are they reverted back to their original state before the movie ends? If not I'd like to see how Kaboom tries to workout Kid Pilaf and gang problem.
Depending on how much more crazy info we get, I'll have to figure out whether GTR and Battle of Gods will be "compatible" at all, or if it'll have to go the same way as DBO's events and just have some subtle nods to it at most. So far it's looking to be a better match for the original GT than for a drastic rewrite of it.

So, Super Saiyan God... Goku doesn't really "keep" the form, but he can summon its power when he needs to? Isn't that pretty much the same thing? Kind of makes ANYTHING set after the manga seem cheap if Goku's practically unbeatable.

That said, if Billy won in the end, does that mean even the "Super Saiyan God" power didn't quite match up to him? Or did it make Goku stronger or at least a challenge for him and only fail because it ran out of time? How did the final fight actually play out?
That would be cool if you made Goku combine the power of Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan God...I already know how it would look it would have the SS4 hair just glowing red, sort of like SS4 Gogeta's hair but all the body hair too. And it would be shiny.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:47 am

sintzu wrote:
Sani wrote:I hope, this isn't just a movie, but a pilot for a new series.
it is

it's called dragon ball gt
Dragon Ball GT has nothing to do with 12 different universes though.

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Post by Scarz » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:48 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Whatever we've learned so far sounds awesome! :D
Sani wrote:I hope, this isn't just a movie, but a pilot for a new series.
In all honestly, that's exactly what it feels like to me.
It's probably just a prologue to more movie sequels. But hell, a new series wouldn't be bad.


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Post by Chuquita » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:50 am

Ssjg doesn't have a special costume than, does it? And is it more magical power-up than omnipotence?
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Post by Cold Skin » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:50 am

Sin wrote:Hmm, I wonder if the different universes are the alternate timelines such as Trunks' timeline etc or whether they are something else altogether.
Yeah, I was wondering the same.
It might be universes with completely different planets and beings.

But if it's more about "alternate versions of the same universe" featuring other versions of the same characters, giving the information that there are other universes might be a subtle way to indulge fans who want to consider GT and movies really happened, but in another reality than the main series / manga events.

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Post by Silkman3003 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:51 am

Kaboom wrote:
Master Turbo wrote:Though I have to ask Kei, do Pilaf and gang stay as kids or are they reverted back to their original state before the movie ends? If not I'd like to see how Kaboom tries to workout Kid Pilaf and gang problem.
Depending on how much more crazy info we get, I'll have to figure out whether GTR and Battle of Gods will be "compatible" at all, or if it'll have to go the same way as DBO's events and just have some subtle nods to it at most. So far it's looking to be a better match for the original GT than for a drastic rewrite of it.

So, Super Saiyan God... Goku doesn't really "keep" the form, but he can summon its power when he needs to? Isn't that pretty much the same thing? Kind of makes ANYTHING set after the manga seem cheap if Goku's practically unbeatable.

That said, if Billy won in the end, does that mean even the "Super Saiyan God" power didn't quite match up to him? Or did it make Goku stronger or at least a challenge for him and only fail because it ran out of time? How did the final fight actually play out?
This is what I'd like to know as well

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:52 am

kei17 wrote:The funniest scene was when Gohan gets drunk and goes completely nuts. He wears the Saiyaman costume and asks Mai to shoot him. Incidentally, one of the bullets hit Vedel's leg, and Dende notices she's pregnant while healing her.
I wonder, did Dende spread the word? I really want to know how their parents react.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by omegalucas » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:53 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
kei17 wrote:The funniest scene was when Gohan gets drunk and goes completely nuts. He wears the Saiyaman costume and asks Mai to shoot him. Incidentally, one of the bullets hit Vedel's leg, and Dende notices she's pregnant while healing her.
I wonder, did Dende spread the word? I really want to know how their parents react.
I'm can totally imagine Chi-chi passing out either because by anger or hapinness (or both :lol: )
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 am

*Wonders how they'd go about traveling to the other 11 universes if they wanted to*. Would it be more outer-space type travel or would they need something special similar to Trunks' time machine?
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Post by Herms » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:55 am

Sin wrote:It seems like a cop-out but regarding the three wishes, doesn't Piccolo say that because of the immense amount of revivals wished for in the Buu Saga that the Dragon Balls lost some power and only one wish can be made?
No, in the Boo arc after Bulma and co. revive the people Vegeta killed, Goku thinks that they should have 2 wishes left, but Piccolo explains that because they used the first wish to revive lots of people, only 1 remains.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:56 am

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sintzu wrote:
Sani wrote:I hope, this isn't just a movie, but a pilot for a new series.
it is

it's called dragon ball gt
Dragon Ball GT has nothing to do with 12 different universes though.
This. Suddenly, the Dragon World has grew 12 times bigger! And since Goku is the strongest fighter of the 7th Universe, then who are the strongest fighters of the 11 other Universes? They can easily make a new series from this.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Master Turbo » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:57 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Ssj God isn't temporary. Goku can use it's powers while in his ssj state.
Only in his SSJ state? Not while in SSJ3? way to make that form even more useless, way to make Vegeta even more useless, damn, I imagine Vegeta gets SSJ3 eventually but why would they still have him so far behind?
I would imagine the ssj states past ssj are the improper way of extending the ssj power. Ssj God isn't exactly exclusive to Goku so Vegeta could attain it.
To be perfectly honest the SSJG seems nothing more than just a power up since he can still use everything about it just as a SSJ making the form kind of meaningless which in turns makes attaining it for other characters pointless as well since they can just strengthen said SSJ forms to said level anyway. This is definitely possible considering SSJ 1 o2 Vegeta surpassed Goku's SSJ3 form, no matter how short it was.
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Master Turbo wrote:This movie does explain why Goku's so strong in GT and why Vegeta would still be relevant as well. Still, I going crazy over multiple universe. Its like a dream come true ever since I read DB Multiverse fanmanga. I do wonder why limited the universes to a dozen in specific? Damn, I wish I knew how to speak Japanese fluently I have so many question to ask Watanabe in general about the multiple universe concept.
This has nothing to do with GT...
Depending on how Kei answers the Pilaf question there's nothing saying we can't count BoGs events as part of GT's past.

As for the topic of BoGs, has any fans flooded Watanabe's twitter account with questions about these revelations and what not? I'm totally interested in his responses now. I also hope this opens the door for at least more movie or OVAs at least. They totally have to explore the multiverse concept they introduced now.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:00 pm

They could do some really creative things with these other universes. I like that it leaves the door open, even in-universe because that means there'll still be challenges out there for Goku somewhere.
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Post by Master Turbo » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:02 pm

Chuquita wrote:*Wonders how they'd go about traveling to the other 11 universes if they wanted to*. Would it be more outer-space type travel or would they need something special similar to Trunks' time machine?
In my opinion would be more practical if it was something special needed similar to Trunks' time machine.

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Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:02 pm

Chuquita wrote:They could do some really creative things with these other universes. I like that it leaves the door open, even in-universe because that means there'll still be challenges out there for Goku somewhere.
Perhaps one of the universe is completely empty, and some of the local Gods go to investigate and discover a being within that universe became so powerful he wiped out and possibly even consumed everything within it. Now that would be a powerful enemy.

Maybe a Janemba like creature that can dimensional travel could invade the Dragon Ball universe and then he must be stopped, so many fucking awesome possibilities.
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