Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:53 am

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goku the krump dancer wrote:Shouldn't most if not all TVs have a subtitle option or better yet I know the PS3 has an option where you can turn on subtitles, so if you own one you don't have anything to worry about. I could be mistaken though since all the movies that I own have an english version and I could choose subtitles from the DVD menu instead of the PS3's menu that may just be a short cut of sorts instead of it being its own thing.
That only works if there are actually subtitles encoded into the TV show/DVD. You can't load up subtitles if they don't exist.
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Post by Bando » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:33 pm

Anyone know if this is fake or real?

http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=339632
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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:50 pm

If what in particular is fake?

We have a detailed synopsis of the entire movie -- and have since its release date -- that you can read for yourself if you're interested in spoiling it all.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Bando » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:07 pm

Oh I meant the first post inside the spoilers. It says Beers is the weakest God of Destruction.

I've regrettably read the summary... I just couldn't wait any longer!
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by SaiyaJedi » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:07 pm

Bando wrote:Anyone know of this is fake or real?

http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=339632
What, specifically, are you asking about? We've already covered the movie pretty extensively on the site, which covers pretty much everything factual that's floating around.

The part about there being other Gods of Destruction is kind of implied by there being other universes, but never stated outright; it's also never said that Beerus is the weakest of the Gods of Destruction, only that Whis is stronger than him.

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Post by Bando » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:27 pm

Thanks SaiyaJedi. I couldn't find any thread or post on here debunking the article so I just had to ask.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:34 am

Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, or maybe people are just waiting until they get to see the movie, or maybe it's a popularity thing, but is anyone else having trouble finding BOG fanworks outside of Pixiv and sometimes DA?

I guess I'll know the answer for real come September, but still am curious about this.
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Post by Kakarot88 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:09 am

Called it!
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:43 am

I do love those full colour comic translations. I do wish they kept that scene where everybody tries to help Goku, I also love hearing Toriyama talking about the movie. :)

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:40 am

And finally the debate about if Saiyans can breath in space has reached its end! (Me hopes)
Akira Toriyama wrote:To think that they’d go all the way into the stratosphere……but thinking about it, they’re both aliens, after all. Maybe they can just barely breathe.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by OmegaRockman » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:37 am

Hey, sorry if this has already been said or nobody cares, but I asked Diamond Films on Facebook if they were going to release the movie on DVD after the screening and they said yes! Afterwards I asked if the Japanese track would be on the DVD and I am currently awaiting a reply. So if anybody would prefer to get the Mexican DVD for whatever reason and don't mind waiting, it's coming. I'm hoping it'll be a cheap alternative to the Japanese DVD, assuming an American release doesn't come first.

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Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:58 am

Hardly a discussion ending answer. :P

Anyway, the slipcover + eng subs would have been enough to get me to buy the Blu-ray, but I guess I'll just have to wait for a dub to be released eventually.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:15 am

Saiga wrote:Hardly a discussion ending answer. :P
Why?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:19 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Saiga wrote:Hardly a discussion ending answer. :P
Why?
It's a vague answer, doesn't even seem to fit with BoG (As far as we know Goku shows no difficulty breathing) or with the manga (Freeza outright says Goku can't) and some people won't take BoG into consideration for these debates anyway (and it'd be hard to separate Toriyama's comment from BoG).

I think the vagueness of it will just raise more debate. :3
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:36 am

I think that what Toriyama means is that the Saiyans can breath in space for a limited time, which fits with everything.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by hleV » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:45 am

"Oh shit, they fight in space? Well, they're both aliens, perhaps they can do that! It's not like I remember how I established Saiyans' inability to breathe in space in the manga."

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:47 am

hleV wrote:"Oh shit, they fight in space? Well, they're both aliens, perhaps they can do that! It's not like I remember how I established Saiyans' inability to breathe in space in the manga."
You forget that we see Bardock in space in the manga. And since they can "barely breath", they can survive in space, but not for long.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:50 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I think that what Toriyama means is that the Saiyans can breath in space for a limited time, which fits with everything.
It doesn't fit with what Freeza says, and isn't that much difference from just saying they can hold their breath.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:56 am

Saiga wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I think that what Toriyama means is that the Saiyans can breath in space for a limited time, which fits with everything.
It doesn't fit with what Freeza says, and isn't that much difference from just saying they can hold their breath.
No, it fits. We see Goku (BoG) & Bardock (manga) fighting in space. Freeza said that Goku can't survive in space in the manga. Toriyama says that the Saiyans can barely breath in space. So, the Saiyans can breath in space, but not long enough to fly to another planet.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:03 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Saiga wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I think that what Toriyama means is that the Saiyans can breath in space for a limited time, which fits with everything.
It doesn't fit with what Freeza says, and isn't that much difference from just saying they can hold their breath.
No, it fits. We see Goku (BoG) & Bardock (manga) fighting in space. Freeza said that Goku can't survive in space in the manga. Toriyama says that the Saiyans can barely breath in space. So, the Saiyans can breath in space, but not long enough to fly to another planet.
But what Freeza says is wrong, as Goku can survive in space... just barely. And I think it's a pretty big twisting of Toriyama's words to go from "barely breathe" to "breathe for short periods". Toriyama's words imply difficulty.
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