Captain Ginyu's dub

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:41 pm

I remember in the old FUNi dub of the Namek Saga, Ginyu was talking to Goku about how him and the rest of his group had special conditions. Not to sound stupid, but I thought that he actually had umm... special conditions. If you really think about it, that could make sense. Ginyu, for example, has a bunch of veins all over his head-- you don't really know if his entire race is like that or not.

Now with all of that stuff that I've persuaded myself into believing, I came to the conslusion that the Ginyu Force was an entire team of guys suffering from some sort of deformity that caused them to be shunned from their society and later accepted by Freeza to do his bidding. My question is: is this true, or am I looking at this too literally?

Of course, some could say that Ginyu was just talking about how much more powerful he thought his team was in comparison to others.

This has just been something that's really been in my head for some time that I want to get out for discussion/answering.

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:21 pm

I'm pretty sure he meant that he and his team rose above the rest of their races, and therefore, were taken in by Freeza. I mean, I don't think Freeza's the kind of guy who takes in people like that because they look funny, but rather have an elite team of super incredible guys (heh).

Post by **desirecampbell** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:40 pm

In the dub I saw (was Ocean still doing it then?) he very clearly said they were all "mutants".

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:43 pm

Ginyu mentioned that everyone on the team was a "mutant", a member of their race who had developed unusually powerful or talented. Since he uses the term mutant it may imply that they are not a very good representative of their individual races physically. (that and being killers too.)

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:00 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote:Ginyu mentioned that everyone on the team was a "mutant", a member of their race who had developed unusually powerful or talented. Since he uses the term mutant it may imply that they are not a very good representative of their individual races physically. (that and being killers too.)

Yeah, that's the quote I was referring to (and to desire's post, too)! I knew it was something like they weren't like their race in some way! It sure smells like that was just a dub thing, though. Nevertheless, it's a pretty interesting twist.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:01 pm

Nope, the "mutant" comment by Ginyu is cannon. Just by sheer odds even Funimation could translate something properly once in awhile, without cutting anything out our making things up.

ngnikolaos · Post by **ngnikolaos** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:02 am

In the Greek dub, Ginew also stated the mutant fact. I always thought the dubbie actors made that comment to make the Ginew Force "sound" like X-Men, but I never thought it was actually cannon.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:19 pm

Ah, so it is canon (only two 'n's, guys)! Well then... interesting... It kinda reminds me of how Zabuza took Haku in in Naruto, except DBZ came first.

(imagines Freeza picking the Ginyu force off the streets during winter)

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:13 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:Ah, so it is canon (only two 'n's, guys)!

Just to emphazise this point:

Aside from that, I didn't know the Ginyu Force were mutants. I guess that explains Ginyu's head, though. Of course I always just assumed he looked like that because he was, well, an alien!

ngnikolaos · Post by **ngnikolaos** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:30 pm

Thanks for clarifying Roshi!

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:18 pm

ngnikolaos wrote:Thanks for clarifying Roshi!

I can't help but read this post as utmost sarcasm. Which is okay, because it makes it all the funnier.

But yeah, the cannon vs canon thing is pretty much widespread throughout the interweb. But that'd off topic.

It's interesting to know that characteristics like Gurdo's extra eyes or Butta's scaliness or Jheese's mullet may very well not be widespread throughout their respective species. Of course the mutant thing could also explain the extra strength, Butta's speed, Gurdo's time stopping ability and whatnot. Well, maybe it doesn't quite explain stopping time, but let's use X-Men logic and say that it does. It's not like DB logic is much more, well, logical.

ngnikolaos · Post by **ngnikolaos** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:35 am

The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:I can't help but read this post as utmost sarcasm.

While I enjoy considering myself a sarcasm beast, in this case, I wasn't. Honestly, such a clarification was useful.

Dominator · Post by **Dominator** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:12 am

Looking at that first post, something immediately sprang into my head...

"Spasticus autisticus"
Censors didn't know what the hell they were doing...

Sorry, what's this about the Ginyu Force? Mutants or just lucky stand-outs (AKA camp)?

SylentEcho · Post by **SylentEcho** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:36 am

I guess you guys forgot that the purple body may not have been Ginyu's at all, because remember he has the power to steal bodies and his body may have been destroyed in battle and he may have hung on to this purple one scince then.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Fri May 05, 2006 1:08 am

Hey, I kinda like DaemonCorps theory that the Ginyu Force is deformed.

I'd always assumed that, by "special", Ginyu meant he and his team were retarded.

And I always thought that being transformed into a frog was very apropriate for a retarded, super-powered psychopath!

But hey, just for you, from now on... I too will believe that the Ginyu Force are poor, deformed aliens, shunned from society and later accepted by Freeza to do his bidding. I mean, why not?

Pedro The Hutt · Post by **Pedro The Hutt** » Fri May 05, 2006 9:37 am

Is that some attempt at humanising Freeza's character? XD "When no one else would accept the Ginyu Tokusentai.. HE did!" Ehem~

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Fri May 05, 2006 4:32 pm

Pedro The Hutt wrote:Is that some attempt at humanising Freeza's character? XD "When no one else would accept the Ginyu Tokusentai.. HE did!" Ehem~

Well, it would work for a good filler ep, too, if DBZ were ever redone (but that's on another topic thred).

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