The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:21 pm

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Kid Buu wrote:I don't think Gohan would hit his mother, so Goku and Chichi take this.

Goten & Kid Trunks Vs. Cell after he absorbed Android #17.
Goten and Trunks. They're naturally strong.


Anime Cell Games Piccolo vs Manga Cell Games Trunks
Anime Piccolo was dominating the Cell Juniors, only losing because he got overwhelmed; in the end, it took a double-team sneak attack to finally bring him down. So he should beat the crap out of Trunks, who was weaker than a Cell Junior.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:31 pm

Goku and Chi-Chi vs Gohan and Videl instantly becomes Goku vs all three because Chi-Chi won't let anyone hurt her baby. Thus all power levels are irrelevant as Goku won't stand up to Chi-Chi. Gohan and Videl get ice-cream while Chi-Chi chews out Goku.
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:53 pm

Yamcha & Puar Vs. Kiba & Akamaru
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The Monkey King » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:00 am

Kid Buu wrote:Yamcha & Puar Vs. Kiba & Akamaru
saiyan saga Yamcha would stomp with ease.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:01 am

The Yamcha that fought Kami then.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:07 am

Anime Yamcha(Didn't he beat Obliu?) vs 100% Freeza
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Post by The Monkey King » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:18 am

Kid Buu wrote:The Yamcha that fought Kami then.
Now this is actually a pretty close fight tbh.
I'd say Kiba wins due to having more various techniques.
It would be a close fight though.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:18 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Anime Yamcha(Didn't he beat Obliu?) vs 100% Freeza
Yamcha beat Oiblu, who held his own against the same Pikkon who one-shotted Cell.

Yamcha takes this.
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Post by Kingsley » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:44 am

Kid Buu wrote:I don't think Gohan would hit his mother, so Goku and Chichi take this.

Goten & Kid Trunks Vs. Cell after he absorbed Android #17.
Goten and Kid Trunks even before their trip into the ROSAT are around or at least somewhat close to CG Goku's level. Either one of them could probably beat down initial perfect Cell
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:08 am

Kid Buu wrote:I don't think Gohan would hit his mother, so Goku and Chichi take this.

Goten & Kid Trunks Vs. Cell after he absorbed Android #17.
Goten solos, easily.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:33 am

Kid Buu wrote:Yamcha & Puar Vs. Kiba & Akamaru
Kiba & Akamaru wins because it turns out Yamcha is allergic to dogs.
cesarcoronel07 wrote:If this happened it could have taken place after Kid Buu's defeat. So which couple do you guys think would win?
Goku and Chi-Chi. In fact, it can just be Chi-Chi vs Gohan and Videl, and she'd still win. Just have her scold Gohan and send him to his room then spank VIdel until her ass turns cherry red.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:28 pm

SSJ Vegeta (CG) VS SSJ Goten or SSJ Trunks
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:22 pm

Zombie wrote:SSJ Vegeta (CG) VS SSJ Goten or SSJ Trunks
The kids individually are stronger than Vegeta, but they are unexperienced and not very skilled. So, I believe that Vegeta will find a way to take out of the picture one of them with the Final Flash, and then after a tough fight, he will take care of the other kid after a hard fight, and by using the Bing Bang Attack. So, Vegeta takes this after an really hard fight.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:52 pm

Anime cell games piccolo vs Manga Goten and trunks
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:59 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Yamcha & Puar Vs. Kiba & Akamaru
Kiba & Akamaru wins because it turns out Yamcha is allergic to dogs.
But Kiba has just as much bad luck, he even lost to a fart!
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:59 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Anime cell games piccolo vs Manga Goten and trunks
I still think Anime Piccolo is weaker than CG Goku, who I think the kids are equal to. However, the kids are unskilled. Piccolo should be able to take one of them, but both of them together are too much for him.
Zombie wrote:SSJ Vegeta (CG) VS SSJ Goten or SSJ Trunks
The kids stomp.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:10 pm

Kid Buu wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Yamcha & Puar Vs. Kiba & Akamaru
Kiba & Akamaru wins because it turns out Yamcha is allergic to dogs.
But Kiba has just as much bad luck, he even lost to a fart!
Yeah, but he made Naruto his bitch (no pun intended) for most of the fight.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:31 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Anime cell games piccolo vs Manga Goten and trunks
I still think Anime Piccolo is weaker than CG Goku, who I think the kids are equal to. However, the kids are unskilled. Piccolo should be able to take one of them, but both of them together are too much for him.
Anime Piccolo is equal if not slightly weaker than manga Cg Goku
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Post by Blade » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:16 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Anime cell games piccolo vs Manga Goten and trunks
I still think Anime Piccolo is weaker than CG Goku, who I think the kids are equal to. However, the kids are unskilled. Piccolo should be able to take one of them, but both of them together are too much for him.
Anime Piccolo is equal if not slightly weaker than manga Cg Goku
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I don't see how - as in the Anime Piccolo was still no match for Cell and was in awe of Goku's ability when he was fighting Cell.

Goku's performance vs the Cell Jr's isn't a fair comparison, as in both the manga and anime he's severely weakened by injury and fatigue.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:45 pm

GT Piccolo without weight clothes vs. Super Perfect Cell. If Piccolo did train after Cell, Buu and the end of DBZ, would Piccolo able to take down Cell? He did tank a blast from Bebi SSj Gohan afterall. I believe Piccolo did train got stronger over the years since he has no reason to stop training unlike Gohan. Trunks even said in GT that Piccolo was one of the strongest warriors on Earth unless that was a dub line.
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