Unpopular DB opinions

[Kid Buu]

Yeah I think in that very episode he tries to wish for a necklace for her or something.

I like to think that girlfriend is who he cheated on Bulma with.

[DBZAOTA482]

One unpoplar opinion I have is that I don't think Bulma is the best DBZ female, and that Android 18 takes the cake for that.

Another one I have is that although I don't know if Yamcha cheated on Bulma, is that Bulma was just as bad in the relationship (and it was the worst relationship of the show) because she flirted with other men, but acted as though Yamcha was the devil if a woman even looked at him.

No, the honor I believe belongs to Kuririn x #18. Bulma x Yamcha is at least there for comedy but Kuririn x #18 is just...there.

Also, Bulma not being the best Z-dame isn't that unpopular. Bulma may be the most popular but #18 was always the most well-liked among fans (Bulma is close though).

[RandomGuy96]

I like Bulma better because she's self made so to speak. She can do great things on her own. Like create a fucking time machine. 18 was just given enormous power she didn't deserve or earn and became immediately useless when that power was rendered irrelevant

[RandomGuy96]

And no offense Random, but your cracking jokes about Yamcha in the middle of your points just makes it come off like you just like to hate on him rather than actually disliking the guy, or you only like characters that are 'so badass and coolz' or something. I could be misinterpreting it, but that's how it ends up coming off.

So I guess my new unpopular opinion I'm going to drop here is that I'm seriously beginning to wonder if there's not something severely wrong when a character like Vegeta is loved by the masses, but a poor guy like Yamcha gets laughed off by almost everyone. Is there seriously no love for the underdogs anymore?

I don't hate Yamcha, I just think he's fun to mock (and I joked in response to a joke). Mostly I just think he's bland and superfluous for most of the story.

I do cheer for underdogs. That's why I have some admiration for Krillin. Heck, even Majin Buu, my favorite character, was kind of an underdog. However, if the underdog always fails, and often acts arrogantly, and just isn't interesting in general, then why root for him? And if you know me, you know that I mock and bash Vegeta more than any other character. But then again, I still like him more than Yamcha, since at the very least he usually isn't boring.

Heck, Vegeta himself counts as an underdog a lot of the time. And that's when he looks the most badass. I don't think people hate underdogs. It's pretty much drilled into us to root for them.

[rereboy]

I really don't want to get into this again, but I have to touch on this one - the whole notion that Yamcha's 'not good with girls' personality makes him more likely to cheat. Honestly, I almost find that vaguely insulting in a way. I myself never got a girlfriend until I was out of high school, and for years had issues getting up the guts to tell girls when I liked them, so I qualify as 'not good with girls' too I would think - though thankfully it wasn't as bad as Yamcha had it. At any rate, now that I do have a girlfriend, I would absolutely never cheat on her, even if the goddess Aphrodite herself appeared in full, naked glory and threw herself at me. So the whole situation that 'it actually makes him MORE likely to cheat' is just as hypothetical as anything else brought up about how he wouldn't cheat - it still doesn't discredit a single thing that actually seems to hint at his cheating being unlikely.

Every person is unique. However, men with self-confidence issues towards women do tend to have more trouble resisting the temptation of cheating if the opportunity presents itself. If you think of yourself of a men with self-confidence issues towards women that would have no trouble resisting, or at least a man with no greater difficulty in resisting the temptation compared to a confident man, then good for you.

The fact that there is a tendency doesn't mean that one single particular case will necessary follow that tendency. There are many other factors.

But I do stress that there is a tendency. Men with great self-confidence towards women that really want to engage in a serious relationship tend to only have that kind of relationship with a woman they really want. They tend to not have many problems in being alone if no prospect actually satisfies them and once they do have a relationship, they tend to have a much easier time turning other women down because they don't have a longing or need to affirm or prove themselves in regards to women.
On the contrary, men with self-confidence issues toward women tend to have that longing or need, which makes it much harder for them to resist temptation if the opportunity presents itself. Also, they have a tendency to be uncomfortable with the notion of being alone so there is a tendency for settling for someone that isn't that great if no better prospect is available and/or for not ending a relationship when they become interested in someone else due to the fear of things not working out with the new prospect and then being alone, which may lead to the involvement with other women while still in the previous relationship.

Yamcha clearly has those kind of self-confidence issues. And if they influence him in any way in regards to his stance on cheating, without any more information available, I believe it would make it harder for him to resist temptation.

[baneofdemon22]

@ Randomguy96 What do you like so much about Majin Boo? And do you like all the forms? I'm curious, because I'm pretty sure that's a very unpopular opinion of it being a favorite character. I like the fat one, because of his character arc and the juxtaposition of his childlike innocence and his brutal destruction, but I love the Piccolo/Gotenks absorbed Boo. I loved how his voice reflected the increased strength and the cocky "super-heroic" gloating of Gotenks and Piccolo's intelligence. His voice is so awesome! I also love how his fight with Gohan was almost shot for shot Goku vs Vegeta in the Saiyan saga, where they first stand off. He has my favorite villain line in the dub:

Gohan: [gets into a fighting stance] Now I'll show you why my little brother looks up to me.
Majin Boo: He doesn't.

I didn't really like the other forms, so if you were a fan, I really want to your reasoning, because I want to be fan as well!

[Herms]

Goku weakened them first

No, he hadn't, infact the two had just clobbered a helpess Goku as Bulma was held hostage.

Goku beat those two guys up earlier, which is why they called their boss over in the first place.

[RandomGuy96]

What do you like so much about Majin Boo? And do you like all the forms? I'm curious, because I'm pretty sure that's a very unpopular opinion of it being a favorite character

Things I like about all of the Buus:

-All of them are distinct and unique. This was refreshing after Vegeta, Freeza, and Cell, as those three were all basically the same person.
-I love the designs for all of his forms.
-Buu has interesting and entertaining powers and abilities. It was fun to watch him fight, and he is the source of an endless amount of "what if?" speculation.
-Buu is funny. All forms are prone to immature, psychopathic behavior, which is usually amusing. Some funny antics of his include reading a magazine and drinking a soda during the Gotenks battle, screaming about how he wants candy so loud it actually rips a hole in dimensions, and beating up an enemy... by ripping off his own arm and throwing it at them, then slapping them with said arm. By far the most comedic villain since Dragon Ball stopped being a gag manga.
-All main forms made Vegeta their bitch (though one form only got to do it in filler)

I like the fat one, because of his character arc and the juxtaposition of his childlike innocence and his brutal destruction, but I love the Piccolo/Gotenks absorbed Boo. I loved how his voice reflected the increased strength and the cocky "super-heroic" gloating of Gotenks and Piccolo's intelligence. His voice is so awesome!

Buutenks isn't really a new form or anything. Well, he is, but not a new personality. He's just Super Buu with more eloquence and a higher battle power.

I also love how his fight with Gohan was almost shot for shot Goku vs Vegeta in the Saiyan saga, where they first stand off. He has my favorite villain line in the dub:

Gohan: [gets into a fighting stance] Now I'll show you why my little brother looks up to me.
Majin Boo: He doesn't.

I think those shots are just in the anime. But then again I like the anime version of that fight better anyway.

Oh, and you missed the best part of that dub line: "...in fact, he wonders why you let me take him". Super Buu had one of the better Funi Dub performances in general.

I didn't really like the other forms, so if you were a fan, I really want to your reasoning, because I want to be fan as well!

Well, saying that Majin Buu is my favorite character is kind of cheating, because that's essentially saying "my favorite character is Majin Buu, Majin Buu, Majin Buu, and Majin Buu". Majin Buu is several different people. I like all of his personalities, for different reasons.

Fat Buu- as you mentioned, he has an actual character arc, and the amount of destruction he causes is contrasted well by his innocence and immaturity. He's nothing like the previous villains, he's unique; he's fat, childish, talks like an idiot, and has sympathetic traits. He's an immature blob monster who at first doesn't know right from wrong, and later reforms when he's taught. The previous villains were all 100% evil types, which isn't necessarily bad, but it's nice to get a change of pace. I also like how he just sort of trolls his way through his fights and wins without really trying or paying any attention. I find that highly amusing.

Pure Evil Buu- a deadly, stoic, creepy-as-hell ghoul. He's only around for five minutes in the manga, but I think he has the best design of any of the Buus (especially when he's grey in the anime) and one of the series' best transformation sequences. Plus, his unnatural, miserable, sickly appearance and ice cold stare scared the crap out of me as a kid. Extremely memorable to me despite his short screen time.

Super Buu- my favorite form. Super Buu was pretty much the mandatory Vegeta/Freeza/Cell-like villain for the arc, but at the same time. he's different from them. The main reason I like this form the best is because of how devious and cunning and he is. it makes you admire him, since he's always coming through and making sensible decisions, unlike everyone else, including the heroes. He recognizes the weaknesses of SS3 Gotenks, came up with a successful plan to absorb Gotenks and overcome Gohan, reveals he had a back up plan in case that failed, stalls, surprises, and absorbs Gohan, refuses to toy with Gohan, going straight for the kill, tells Goku to go screw himself when he asks to fuse with Gohan, preferring instead to kill them when he has the chance (contrast Vegeta, Freeza, and Cell... and heck, even Goku), and finally tries again to stop Goku from fusing with Vegeta. He's not a super genius, as Piccolo is once able to dupe him, and he falls for the Kamikaze Ghosts, but he's a hell of a lot more intelligent than the last three.

Even though what follows is bullcrap, not even Vegetto actually beats him; he gets absorbed as part of his plan to free his friends, but the plan backfires when Buu's biology basically kills Vegetto off and causes him to defuse (Buu was unsurprised when he saw Goku and Vegeta unfused; Goku and Vegeta weren't). In the end, they needed another deus ex machina (Super Buu suddenly being super slow again) to beat him.

Actually, thinking about it, he kind of reminds me of the Emperor circa Episode 3. You like him because he smacks around and/or manipulates the idiots the series passes off as heroes, running circles around them and looking cool while doing it. Also, because he's evil and he fucking loves it.

Pure Buu- I like this the one the least out of the three distinct personalities, but I still like him. He's again unlike the previous villains; this guy's just a psychotic berserker who destroys everything in sight. I like the simplicity of his design (just a really short version of Super Buu) and his lack of speech. His antics during the final battle amused me, more so in the anime. And he beat the crap out of Goku.

[goku the krump dancer]

I might have said this before but I'm not the biggest fan of Revenge of King Piccolo.. But I'm actually about to play it now just to give another chance for perhaps the final time.

[MediaFanGirl93]

One unpoplar opinion I have is that I don't think Bulma is the best DBZ female, and that Android 18 takes the cake for that.

Another one I have is that although I don't know if Yamcha cheated on Bulma, is that Bulma was just as bad in the relationship (and it was the worst relationship of the show) because she flirted with other men, but acted as though Yamcha was the devil if a woman even looked at him.

No, the honor I believe belongs to Kuririn x #18. Bulma x Yamcha is at least there for comedy but Kuririn x #18 is just...there.

Also, Bulma not being the best Z-dame isn't that unpopular. Bulma may be the most popular but #18 was always the most well-liked among fans (Bulma is close though).

Thanks. Although I'm not that much of a fan of Krillin and 18 either, I just dislike Bulma X Yamcha because all they did was fight and it invoked the double standard trope called "The Unfair Sex." People try to say that Goku X Chi-Chi is the worst, but ignore this relationship that (I felt) was even worse.

[baneofdemon22]

@Randomguy96 Thank you so much for that explanation! I really appreciate you going in such elaborate detail. I keep forgetting about the grey Boo. I love his design! It's so scary with those white eyes. I agree with all your points, so it must have been something about the the scenes I didn't like. I think it was because I wasn't a fan of Gotenks, so I couldn't enjoy a lot of the scenes, because I agree with you and loved his "entrance", forcing himself down an civilian's throat and filling him up until he burst. Although, I absolutely love every scene with Trunks and Goten. I really liked Kid Boo in the English dub, but I think what turned me off from enjoying the scene is because in Japanese, I hated how Goku offered the Elder a chance to grope, give "steamy magazines", and called himself more handsome than his sons, when he was battling with Vegeta within Super Boo's intestines. It just got under my skin. I liked the "date" and "kiss" offer in the Funimation dub, because it seemed he seemed much more innocent and naive. Goku might say some lame phrases in the English dub of the Boo arc, like the "What did I do to deserve this?" lines, but I think I'm going to have to stick with the English just for that arc, so I can still love my favorite character at the end. Or at least watch the Japanese up to the point Super Boo appears, then switch to English. Plus I was so bored of the Vegito scenes in Japanese and loved the quips in the English, so that was another reason why I probably didn't enjoy Super Boo as much.

[Kid Buu]

Now you guys are making me watch Buutenks dubbed.

"And Trunks think you're a cowardly deserter, just like your father"

Oh shit, Buu is trolling like crazy.

[TheAldella]

Now you guys are making me watch Buutenks dubbed.

"And Trunks think you're a cowardly deserter, just like your father"

Oh shit, Buu is trolling like crazy.

Yeah, liberties or not, it's sick.

[Kid Buu]

"Without your father holding your hand, you really are nothing?"

THIS IS AN ACTUAL LINE???

I'm dying.

Oh, and to stay on topic. I actually like the Falcouner score here.

[RandomGuy96]

"Without your father holding your hand, you really are nothing?"

THIS IS AN ACTUAL LINE???

I'm dying.

Oh, and to stay on topic. I actually like the Falcouner score here.

I love that line. Buu's such a troll; was he the one running Toei animation when they made the movies?

[Kid Buu]

Hmm, I kind of want to rewatch the dub of the Buu arc now. Its the arc I remember watching the most on Toonami, so should be nostalgic.

[RandomGuy96]

Hmm, I kind of want to rewatch the dub of the Buu arc now. Its the arc I remember watching the most on Toonami, so should be nostalgic.

I think the best part about Buu's insults towards Gohan and Goku is that they are totally right in addition to being troll-ish. Goku is piss scared of Super Buu, and more importantly abandoned his family to die rather than kill Fat Buu when he had the chance, while Gohan is an incompetent putz who had to have his father hold his hand against Cell, and is in the process of failing hard against Buu himself. Funi Buu gets kinda meta sometimes.

[TheGmGoken]

Hmm, I kind of want to rewatch the dub of the Buu arc now. Its the arc I remember watching the most on Toonami, so should be nostalgic.

I think the best part about Buu's insults towards Gohan and Goku is that they are totally right in addition to being troll-ish. Goku is piss scared of Super Buu, and more importantly abandoned his family to die rather than kill Fat Buu when he had the chance, while Gohan is an incompetent putz who had to have his father hold his hand against Cell. Funi Buu gets kinda meta sometimes.

Honestly. I prefer some of Funi Boo arc than the original. Super Boo was amazing and Majin Vegeta in Eng Dub was down right fucking awesome

[DBZAOTA482]

I like Bulma better because she's self made so to speak. She can do great things on her own. Like create a fucking time machine. 18 was just given enormous power she didn't deserve or earn and became immediately useless when that power was rendered irrelevant

Okay, #18 does lose relevance fairly quick after her debut (just like the whole non-Saiyan cast in general) but I don't think she got that bad of a treatment overall. I mean she did make it all the way to the finals of the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai, put up a decent fight between two demi-Saiyans whilst holding back (and won her way with smarts), and she was the only one to call Mr. Satan out in his public facade and even conned him out of his money. Did I forget to mention she's the only female fighter with a win in her battle record (Chi-Chi, Videl, and Ranfan lost every major battle they got into)?

[RandomGuy96]

I like Bulma better because she's self made so to speak. She can do great things on her own. Like create a fucking time machine. 18 was just given enormous power she didn't deserve or earn and became immediately useless when that power was rendered irrelevant

Okay, #18 does lose relevance fairly quick after her debut (just like the whole non-Saiyan cast in general) but I don't think she got that bad of a treatment overall. I mean she did make it all the way to the finals of the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai, put up a decent fight between two demi-Saiyans whilst holding back (and won her way with smarts), and she was the only one to call Mr. Satan out in his public facade and even conned him out of his money. Did I forget to mention she's the only female fighter with a win in her battle record (Chi-Chi, Videl, and Ranfan lost every major battle they got into)?

Only because the demi-saiyans were holding back a MASSIVE amount of power at both stages and were seven year olds, so that's not really a point in her favor. She doesn't actually contribute anything, just bullies a regular human, and the only thing she does relevant to the main plot after Cell vomits her up is get one-shotted off-screen by Super Buu. If you count the movies, she also gets to get one-shotted by Broly and one-shotted by Beerus. Yay.

Piccolo kept relevance for about the same amount of time as Vegeta. Krillin kept his relevance from his debut until Freeza's third transformation. By the end of the Buu arc, pretty much the only relevant fighters are Gotenks and Gohan, MAYBE Goku and Mr. Buu if we're using a loose definition of the term.

Chi Chi defeated a dinosaur as well as several generic super humans at the 23rd Budokai. She also defeated two of Slug's troops in Movie 4. Plus I'm pretty sure Pan defeated Android 20 and maybe some other dudes in GT.

And again, her power is entirely artificial and unearned, which really cheapens any of her accomplishments. Chi Chi is legitimately the most powerful human female, and Bulma was by far the most USEFUL, with several awesome feats of invention to the point where her borderline unnatural genius is basically her super power.