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Official Misinformation?

Post by Deus ex Machina » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:43 pm

By now I've accepted that Funimation has its own "re-visioning" of the DragonBall series, and I'm at peace with that now. But what I can't get is how Funimation can't even keep its own facts straight.

I was just browsing Funimation's DBZ site, when I noticed Android 16 had been thrown in with "the Bad Guys" list. Now at first I wrote that off as just a mistake, considering he never does a single evil thing, but upon reading his bio:

"Created by the evil Genius Dr. Gero, Androids 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 are out to destroy our heroes on Earth. These androids have amazing strength and enjoy devestation for its sake. The strong, silent type, Android 16 is an experimental model and is out to destroy whatever he sees.

After meeting his demise at the hands of Cell, Bulma collects the pieces of Android 16 and reprograms him to fight on the good side."


:shock: Now, what? Did the person who wrote this bio even watch DBZ? This sounds like something you would've found on a generic fan site in the mid 90's. I really expected better from an "official" source.

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Post by Bura » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:46 pm

Haha, wow that really is a big error! Also, the Jinzoningen were programmed to kill Goku, right? Not all the fighters? Even though they did (in the Trunks timeline, anyway). But #17 and #18 kinda had minds of their own right? ^^;

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:58 pm

Yea well there all a little odd...
Piccolo is the second strongest being on the Earth.
That isnt really a fair statement. Couldn't Gotenks kick Piccolos green snail ass?

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Post by Tsukento » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:03 pm

#16, in particular, was clearly meant to fight Goku. He was programmed only to kill him, so he really didn't care for fighting anyone else. #17 and #18, however, were pretty much rebelious. I would think it also has something to do with the fact that they're not 100% machine like #16 is, so they're not capable of being "brainwashed" completely (nevermind what GT wants us to believe). >_>;

The biggest noticable errors are the parts where it says #16 destroys whatever he sees (completely destroys his speech to Gohan, which causes him to become a Super Saiyan 2), and when it says he dies to Cell and is then rebuilt. o_O;

Speaking of Gohan, take a gander at this:

With Goku's departure to the next dimension and the eminent arrival of the Saiyans, Gohan is key to the survival of Earth. Thus Piccolo, a former enemy of his father trains Gohan for the upcoming battle. Although initially a wimp, Gohan's training in the wilderness and subsequent fighting make him both brave and loyal.

Uh..they stopped using "next dimension" quite late into Season 3, didn't they? >_> By the whole Artificial Humans arc, it was completely done away with.

Here's another funny one. Goten's bio has a screencap from Dragon Ball featuring Goku and Kuririn. Obviously they thought that if they had the same hair, they were the same character. o-o;

They don't even seem to mention that the Genki Dama is an attack of Kaio-sama's. We've heard him praise Goku for choosing "his" technique as the finishing move before, especially when Vegeta suggests it against Boo.
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Post by Bura » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:15 pm

Goku was sent to Earth as a baby to destroy the planet, but a head injury as a child scrambled Goku's programming.
Ermm, wasn't Goku supposed to kill all the humans and simply take over?..

Also, the bio of #17 is mostly about #19 and #20 than about #17 himself.
Created by Dr. Gero, Androids 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 are out to destroy our heroes on the Earth. Putting Earth at peril, these Androids have amazing strength and enjoy devastation for its sake. Android 19 is an overweight Android wearing a funny outfit. He is very passionate about eliminating our heroes and uses all the weapons he can.Androids 19 and 20 are the first Androids to come to Earth in the Cell Saga.

[-] SPOILERS! - CLICK TO EXPAND
They are defeated by Vegeta in an amazing show of strength. But it's not the end of Android 20 and the great threat to our heroes, as Android 20 has been programmed to repair himself.
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Post by Tsukento » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:18 pm

Here's a good one. This was in Tenshinhan's bio.

Attacks:
BLINDING LIGHT FLASHES
CONCENTRATION BOMBS


Since when are the "Solar Flare" and "Tri-Beam" ever called as such? >__>;
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Post by BoxerGloves » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:20 pm

With Goku's departure to the next dimension and the eminent arrival of the Saiyans, Gohan is key to the survival of Earth. Thus Piccolo, a former enemy of his father trains Gohan for the upcoming battle. Although initially a wimp, Gohan's training in the wilderness and subsequent fighting make him both brave and loyal.

Uh..they stopped using "next dimension" quite late into Season 3, didn't they? >_> By the whole Artificial Humans arc, it was completely done away with.
Not really. Just recently, in their English version of movie # 12, you can hear plenty of "this dimension", "next dimension", or "another dimension" crap.

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Post by Tsukento » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:27 pm

I see. I do recall them straying away from that and simply refering to it as death and simply going to another world, rather than the "dimension" nonsense used to dance around the idea that the characters actually died.

Vegetto's bio has a screenshot of just Vegeta in there. o_O;

It's also funny how they chose to give all of Oob's info, especially how he's the reincarnation of the smaller Boo, yet put the fact that he leaves to train with Goku in the spoilers tags.

And it gets worse with the "Next Dimension" stuff.

Yamcha is defeated during battle with the Saibamen, and trains in the "Next Dimension" under King Kai.

This one is a BIG "WTF?"

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PROGRAMMED TO REPAIR HIMSELF

They are defeated by Vegeta in an amazing show of strength. But it's not the end of Android 20 and the great threat to our heroes, as Android 20 has been programmed to repair himself.


Where the hell did they pull that one out of?
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Post by BoxerGloves » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:33 pm

Vegetto's bio has a screenshot of just Vegeta in there. o_O;
Funny, if I remember correctly, Dr. Wheelo's bio for some reason had a picture of his assistant, Dr. Kochin in it.

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Post by desirecampbell » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:53 pm

Wow. Just... wow.

Nobody tell 'EX - he'll flip out.


On a side note - we can assume Funi's not going to try and re-write the series to fit this mangled information - right? This certainly isn't the reason the UUE's have stopped and the season 1 box is delayed - right? This can't be another 'brilliant scientist' move by Funi.

Right?

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Post by Blitzen » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:01 pm

desirecampbell wrote:Wow. Just... wow.

Nobody tell 'EX - he'll flip out.


On a side note - we can assume Funi's not going to try and re-write the series to fit this mangled information - right? This certainly isn't the reason the UUE's have stopped and the season 1 box is delayed - right? This can't be another 'brilliant scientist' move by Funi.

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Post by Bardock-EX » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:05 pm

Certainly, Funi is to lazy plus are they autherized to play with the origanal film? I think not, they are just allowed to change the voices and put on in stores right?

Oh, talked to my cousin today who works for "Bestbuy", he was told by the store managers that they may stop selling Ultimate uncut since the production companie may stop producing the dvds! Interesting...I can not confurm 100% because it's an issue of may.

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Post by Blitzen » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:18 pm

Bardock-EX wrote:Certainly, Funi is to lazy plus are they autherized to play with the origanal film? I think not, they are just allowed to change the voices and put on in stores right?
FUNimation essentially have every right to do what they want to anything they want, regarding what they've licensed (as they've managed to prove thus far). These descriptions that are on the website are a result of PR and marketting firms who do not have a good grasp of the story.
Oh, talked to my cousin today who works for "Bestbuy", he was told by the store managers that they may stop selling Ultimate uncut since the production companie may stop producing the dvds! Interesting...I can not confurm 100% because it's an issue of may.
Okay, forgive me for this-

WE ALREADY KNOW THE FUCKING ULTIMATE UNCUTS ARE BEING CANCELLED, WE'VE ALREADY BASICALLY CONFIRMED IT IN SEVERAL FUCKING THREADS STOP BEING SUCH A USELESS SHIT POSTER FOR FUCKS SAKE

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Post by Chaos Saiyajin » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:38 am

:shock: All I want to know is this...

What the hell are the smoking and where can I get some? :lol:

But in all seriousness, do people who even watch the show make the FUNi Dragon Ball Z website? Holy fuck, if they do, I fear I've missed out on a shitload of things. XD

And oddly, Tenshinhan's attacks listed sound like something I would see in Sparking! or something...
I really, really need to get back into the habit of posting.

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Post by Mike D » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:57 am

Turles has a bio, but none of his teamates do.

Cooler has a bio, but Sauza, Neiz, and Dore don't.

Metal Cooler has his own bio, so why don't the other forms of buu?

All of the major movie villains have a bio, where's Janemba's?


*sigh*

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Post by Castor Troy » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:56 am

Considering that the old beta of the official site in the year 2000 had "Goku Condoms" advertised on it, I have never counted on the official site as reliable information. :P

Sadly the 1 million viewers it gets a month are being duped. :(

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Post by Eclipse » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:05 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Considering that the old beta of the official site in the year 2000 had "Goku Condoms" advertised on it, I have never counted on the official site as reliable information. :P

Sadly the 1 million viewers it gets a month are being duped. :(
O_O. Goku condoms?!. Now this is something I haven't seen before (nor do I want to see)

Now this is somewhat...true
The dragon, Shenron, can be summoned by gathering all seven of the Dragon Balls. Shenron can bestow any single wish as long as it does not exceed the power of its creator and as long as the creator still lives. In Shenron's case, the creator is Kami.

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At least that was ....somewhat correct. But then of course, most of the bios have that sort of mystery around them (Guess they want you to watch it as well...Stupid PR idiots). Though I laughed at Bulma's profile (Attacks: Mechanical Genius)

And Freeza's? It just explains about his father for crying out loud!

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Post by Big Momma » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:34 pm

NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO! NOT ANOTHER WORD!I will die if I have to read another mistake! I am going to KILL Myself!
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Post by Steven Perry » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:12 pm

Big Momma wrote:NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO! NOT ANOTHER WORD!I will die if I have to read another mistake! I am going to KILL Myself!
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I'd like to know what everybody thinks of the following:

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First of all, I hope I haven't misunderstood this.

It's very nicely written, but how accurate is it? I'm assuming they're talking about the days when planet Vegeta was inhabited by the Tuffles and Saiyans, because "technology" and the "full moon" was mentioned. I don't know about you, but this piece gives me the impression that the Saiyans had a hard time defeating the Tuffles, and that they were looked down upon and treated as trash. The writer says it took "sheer will" to take down the Tuffles, as if they were a force to be reckoned with (like they were supreme rulers). But wait... didn't the Saiyans simply destroy the Tuffles as a result of their instinct to kill, and to have fun?

At first, I thought the writer was talking about the Saiyans under the rule of Freeza ("theirs was a story of stolen dignity", and "they were slaves").

Were Tuffles the rulers? The line "with new found freedom" says to me that the Saiyans have now broken free of their wrath. Which can't be true.

The "stolen dignity" thing should be in regards to Freeza. It mentions nothing about Freeza, and apparently the Saiyans regained their pride by taking over planets and selling them. Wait... wasn't that due to Freeza? If anything, their pride was shattered.

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Post by desirecampbell » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:38 pm

Yeah the Saiyans were slaves... and #16 loves to destroy stuff.

I've given up on that whole place.

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