Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cell?

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by Cursed Lemon » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:52 pm

It makes absolutely no sense that Cell would be completely engulfed by either the instant Kamehameha or the Final Flash, and yet have only one a SPECIFIC area of his body be blown clean off. In both cases, it's very evident that Cell was caught off guard - I fully believe that had either Vegeta or Goku struck Cell's entire body (at least, definitely in his non-super form), they would've destroyed him. Those were powerful beams charged for a long time, and it's quite clear that characters in DBZ can produce attacks that are many times more powerful than their relative ability to block.

In Gohan's Kamehameha, we can plainly see that Cell is swimming in a sea of energy, and his body dissolves all at the same time.
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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by AvatarReiko » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:32 pm

I am not too sure on this but I read somewhere on another forum that Vegeta redirected the attack and moved the energy beam up at the last second hence why the attack skimmed across the surface of the Earth as it did. Had he not done that, Earth would have been history along with cell

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:35 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:I am not too sure on this but I read somewhere on another forum that Vegeta redirected the attack and moved the energy beam up at the last second hence why the attack skimmed across the surface of the Earth as it did. Had he not done that, Earth would have been history along with cell
I don't know about "redirecting" it, but he did manipulate the attack so that it wouldn't damage the Earth.
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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by hleV » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:52 pm

Cell's body works in mysterious ways.

Anyway to answer the original question, I think that unless Cell pulled a nucleous, he would've been killed by the Final Flash had it hit his full body.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by AvatarReiko » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:45 pm

hleV wrote:Cell's body works in mysterious ways.

Anyway to answer the original question, I think that unless Cell pulled a nucleous, he would've been killed by the Final Flash had it hit his full body.
What i did not understand was why was Cell's face so shocked. He looked like he'd been beaten.Why would he react that way if he knew that he would just regenerate. Perhaps he still felt the pain of the attack. Also, maybe he did not think that Vegeta's attack wouldn't be as effective as it was.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:39 pm

I always thought that Vegeta redirected the attack at the last second, and if he didn't, Cell would've died, but the planet would've been destroyed.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by 90sDBZ » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:56 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Fpssj Goku would tank that attack like a pro
I doubt this. It was an amped attack that is much stronger than the user. I'd be willing to bet Goku would at least take considerable damage.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:39 am

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Fpssj Goku would tank that attack like a pro
I doubt this. It was an amped attack that is much stronger than the user. I'd be willing to bet Goku would at least take considerable damage.
Cell was much more surpassed against Vegeta than he was against Goku though.
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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:11 am

I think it'd require much more power than that Final Flash to actually kill Cell. Note how when he self destructed himself (during a state in which he had more power than Vegeta used to launch his Final Flash...) he still came back and regenerated all of his cells, and more? Even if Vegeta's attack made a direct strike he would have come back.
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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by Marty Kirra » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:39 am

I'm pretty sure it was just dumb luck that Cell didn't die when hit with that attack, he seemed pretty stunned. I would like to think he attempted to move out of the way, but who knows really.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by hleV » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:47 am

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:I think it'd require much more power than that Final Flash to actually kill Cell. Note how when he self destructed himself (during a state in which he had more power than Vegeta used to launch his Final Flash...) he still came back and regenerated all of his cells, and more? Even if Vegeta's attack made a direct strike he would have come back.
Cell had reverted to his 2nd form by the time he self-destructed, so no, he most definitely wasn't stronger than Vegeta during his Final Flash.
But then, it was 2nd form Cell surviving 2nd form Cell's self-destruction. Who knows how Super Vegeta's Final Flash compares to Perfect Cell.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:07 am

I think Vegeta could kill that version of Cell using Final Flash, but not a powered-up one. It looked like to me that Cell just dodged the attack at the last instant.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by sekzee » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:01 pm

Angelus gets it. Great post.

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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by TheRed259 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:30 pm

No. Cell would regenerate like Majin Buu did and after that he will have so much power (Saiyan DNA) that maybe not even Super Trunks could keep up with him.

Hmm, and where Cell had Android 18 all this time (Final Flash, Instant Kamehameha)?
If 18 is part of him and got destroyed by Goku's Kamehameha how Cell can still be in his perfect form? :think:
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Re: Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cel

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:31 pm

TheRed259 wrote:No. Cell would regenerate like Majin Buu did and after that he will have so much power (Saiyan DNA) that maybe not even Super Trunks could keep up with him.

Hmm, and where Cell had Android 18 all this time (Final Flash, Instant Kamehameha)?
If 18 is part of him and got destroyed by Goku's Kamehameha how Cell can still be in his perfect form? :think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_U6Gb0C_k
Trunks couldn't keep up with Cell anyway, and Cell isn't Buu. His surviving his own self destruction was a freak accident that even he never expected would happen. There's no guarantee that he'd come back if he was struck full on by the Final Flash.
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