Dragon Ball Z more violent than Dragon Ball?

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Dragon Ball Z more violent than Dragon Ball?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:36 pm

The instances I remember when Dragon Ball Z was actually violent:
1] Goku and Raditz bloody hole thanks to Piccolo's Mankankosappo
2] Kuririn gets impaled by Freeza
3] Cell strips the life out of an old rich guy
4] Videl is brutally assaulted during the tournament as if she were a punch bag
5] Mr. Satan's dog is shot down

I'm not counting Yamucha's death, Gohan's "child abuse" or Chaozu's suicide attack because they weren't really all that bad at all.

Whereas in Dragon Ball they had some really gross violent stuff going on, such as is:

1] Dracula Man sucking blood straight from Kuririn's head
2] Oopa's dad being killed with a spear
3] Commander Red is shot in the head
4] Tao Pai Pai's kills General Blue
5] Tao Pai Pai's kills an innocent tailor
6] Colonel Violent sacrifices two colleagues so just that she can escape death
7] Goku rips through Piccolo Daimao's stomach
8] Chichi decapitates a dinosaur
9] General Blue attempted to attract Obatchaman (not violent, but very creepy)

So just because a show has characters punching, kicking and sending beams whichever direction it doesn't automatically make it necessary violent.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z more violent than Dragon Ball?

Post by Ajay » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:07 pm

Don't forget:

- Vegeta's arm is snapped by #18.
- Freeza beats the life out of Vegeta before mercilessly killing him.

I think they both have their fair share of violence; they're just very different. Z's darker tone and grander fights tend to make that violence far more relentless and mature-feeling.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:16 pm

Without sitting down and actually doing the research, I feel like there was a decrease in frequency for violent acts from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z. What the Z era did have though, was generally more violent than what came before.
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Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:29 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:1] Dracula Man sucking blood straight from Kuririn's head
2] Oopa's dad being killed with a spear
3] Commander Red is shot in the head
4] Tao Pai Pai's kills General Blue
5] Tao Pai Pai's kills an innocent tailor
6] Colonel Violent sacrifices two colleagues so just that she can escape death
7] Goku rips through Piccolo Daimao's stomach
8] Chichi decapitates a dinosaur
9] General Blue attempted to attract Obatchaman (not violent, but very creepy)
10] Tao Pai Pai slashes Tenshinhan's chest with a blade.
11] Piccolo blasts a hole in one side of Goku's chest, and elbows him right in the wound!!

Dunno 'bout you guys, but those things really hurt just thinking about them!!
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:31 pm

And there is also Oozaru Vegeta breaking Goku.
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Post by dodge2461 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:33 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:The instances I remember when Dragon Ball Z was actually violent:
1] Goku and Raditz bloody hole thanks to Piccolo's Mankankosappo
2] Kuririn gets impaled by Freeza
3] Cell strips the life out of an old rich guy
4] Videl is brutally assaulted during the tournament as if she were a punch bag
5] Mr. Satan's dog is shot down
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Post by SSJ3_Zack » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:58 pm

DBZ has Freeza literally ripping off Nail's arm. But then again Piccolo ripped his own arm off in DragonBall.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:01 pm

Both were pretty violent in my opinion. I felt the Namek Saga was the most violent saga in my opinion. GT is the tamest show out of the three in my opinion.
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Post by JackyBoi99 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:10 am

The only violent moment I can think of in GT, was when bebi bursts out of myuu's back.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:34 pm

JackyBoi99 wrote:The only violent moment I can think of in GT, was when bebi bursts out of myuu's back.
There's also Dragon Thunder.

Another to the Z List:

1. Vegeta kneeing Burta in the neck
2. Ginyu piercing the right side of his chest.
3. Dr. Gero squeezing the head of a somewhat younger old man off.
4. Dr. Gero piercing Yamcha's belly.
5. Tenshinhan being chocked by #17
6. Cell stomping #16's head.
7. Gohan kicking Cell at the back of his head, and actually managing to crack it.
8. Gohan oblirating Cell with his Kamehameha.
9. The dead corpses around Babidi Spaceship.
10. Spopobitchi exploding.
11. Majin Boo clapping Kaioshin's head.

EDIT: I also forgot Gohan's slughtering of the Cell Juniors.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:57 pm

JackyBoi99 wrote:The only violent moment I can think of in GT, was when bebi bursts out of myuu's back.
The ones I remember were:

- Rildo blowing up Dolltaki's head
- Bebi coming out Myuu's back
- Goku getting crush by Bebi's Oozaru hands
- Vegeta getting stab by Super Yi Xing Long's spikes

Other then those, GT is the tamest show out of the three shows. I view DB and DBZ uncut rated PG-13 and GT rated PG.
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Post by Valerius Dover » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:33 pm

I remember an example of bloodless carnage in the General Blue Saga with the aforementioned Blue's troops getting killed by that trap in the cave. There was no blood at all. :lol:
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Post by dan2026 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:40 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:I remember an example of bloodless carnage in the General Blue Saga with the aforementioned Blue's troops getting killed by that trap in the cave. There was no blood at all. :lol:
At lot of the violence and death in Dragon Ball was played for laughs though.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:40 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:I remember an example of bloodless carnage in the General Blue Saga with the aforementioned Blue's troops getting killed by that trap in the cave. There was no blood at all. :lol:
There wasn't blood on the spear either that killed Oopa's father, which was thrown by Tao Pai Pai.
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Post by Valerius Dover » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:47 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Valerius Dover wrote:I remember an example of bloodless carnage in the General Blue Saga with the aforementioned Blue's troops getting killed by that trap in the cave. There was no blood at all. :lol:
There wasn't blood on the spear either that killed Oopa's father, which was thrown by Tao Pai Pai.
Yeah, I remember that one, forgot to mention it. They didn't even show where it pierced (well, until a later flashback, at least).
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:32 pm

I think the dead family round Babidi's ship is one of the mosre gruesome things in the manga. We clearly see a dead child and the woman is cut clean in half laying in a pool of her own blood.
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Post by Attitudefan » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:17 pm

Piccolo JR vs Son Goku anyone? That has one of the most violent beat downs in all of anime. Just brutal.
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Post by hulkty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:16 am

Its a trick of the animation..... :/
Of course Dragon Ball is just as violent, it's just hard to tell with the animation style now.

Think of it this way. In shows like Naruto and Bleach, the characters obviously aren't DBZ level and can't blow up planets with their strongest attacks, but when they use an energy attack the animation makes it look like an extremely huge nuke, when the animation of some energy blasts in DBZ just have small dust clouds sometimes.....even though they could blow up multiple planets. LOL XD

Compare this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uzqF4sxcW3c/T ... 4%255D.jpg
To this: http://sindarfrom.files.wordpress.com/2 ... -pic-1.jpg
To this: http://cdn.static.ovimg.com/episode/306764.jpg

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Post by Saiga » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:01 am

Dragon Ball Z is definitely more violent. Not that that's good or bad, though. Although it does remind me of something funny, when someone was trying to argue that Dragon Ball is the more violent one (and unlike Z wasn't made for kids yadda yadda) and when talking about the Goku vs Piccolo battle, said:

"And this isn't Dragon Ball Z, where energy blasts only leave scuff marks. This is Dragon Ball, and Goku's got a friggin' hole in his shoulder"

Which is absolutely hilarious because that is the only time in Dragon Ball that ki blasts were shown being that violent, and it's Dragon Ball Z that has people constantly getting holes punched through them or blown away completely by ki attacks.
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Post by Valerius Dover » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:29 pm

Saiga wrote:Dragon Ball Z is definitely more violent. Not that that's good or bad, though. Although it does remind me of something funny, when someone was trying to argue that Dragon Ball is the more violent one (and unlike Z wasn't made for kids yadda yadda) and when talking about the Goku vs Piccolo battle, said:

"And this isn't Dragon Ball Z, where energy blasts only leave scuff marks. This is Dragon Ball, and Goku's got a friggin' hole in his shoulder"

Which is absolutely hilarious because that is the only time in Dragon Ball that ki blasts were shown being that violent, and it's Dragon Ball Z that has people constantly getting holes punched through them or blown away completely by ki attacks.
Weird. I saw that exact same quote somewhere on TV Tropes. What's up with that? :lol: Like you said, people are falling apart in Z compared to DB. I can't think of a single case where a direct hit from an energy blast didn't cause some serious damage (Not counting super powerful characters who just absorb these).
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