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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by ABED » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:31 pm

It's not exactly clear that he feared death or exactly what was motivating him the most. He ran from death, but he also wanted to die.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by SaiyanZ » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:16 pm

I've never seen resurrection as a means for undermining the emotional resonance of a death. And yes, Toguro fought Yusuke under the pretense that he wanted the the best challenge possible (akin to Cell's motivation), but then we realize his true motivation was to atone for Kairen killing his students by becoming the thing he hated; then having Yusuke kill him, Genkai could be resurrected because of the wish the Club grants for the winner (yes, Sakyo & Toguro killed them) & Genkai could help Yusuke to not be like Toguro and blindly pursue strength.

Also, Genkai's resurrection was fine to me, she still taught Yusuke later to not let his power go to his head, and it was nice to hear her wisdom later in the series.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by SaiyanZ » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:57 pm

Oh, and about the healing pod thing, Hiei was revived via Mukuro's pod, but as to whether he actually died fighting Shigure is a little unclear. I think he did tho
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Doctor. » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:02 pm

If Kishimoto wrote Dragon Ball, Boo would have died in the most anti-climatic and lame way possible :lol:

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:43 pm

SaiyanZ wrote:Oh, and about the healing pod thing, Hiei was revived via Mukuro's pod, but as to whether he actually died fighting Shigure is a little unclear. I think he did tho
Ohhhhh, so THAT'S the bit that was being talked about. I didn't think of that since the way I've always looked at it was that Hiei didn't die, and the pod was just healing him. Granted it's a pretty iffy thing for him to have survived at all, but...well, it makes more sense given what the series shows us than the idea of it reviving him completely.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Saiga » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:53 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
SaiyanZ wrote:Oh, and about the healing pod thing, Hiei was revived via Mukuro's pod, but as to whether he actually died fighting Shigure is a little unclear. I think he did tho
Ohhhhh, so THAT'S the bit that was being talked about. I didn't think of that since the way I've always looked at it was that Hiei didn't die, and the pod was just healing him. Granted it's a pretty iffy thing for him to have survived at all, but...well, it makes more sense given what the series shows us than the idea of it reviving him completely.
Nah, he's outright said to have died. And Shigure was killed by decapitation but pop him in the pod and he's not only brought back to life, but perfectly fine to enter the upcoming tournament. Given that Genkai was revived earlier, it's not even that much of a stretch despite coming out of nowhere.

The reason I have no problem with Roshi coming back to life, is simply because the method used to revive him was something that was something that existed since the first chapter, and was shown reviving people before that point. It was a very good idea to have the first person revived by Shenron be a minor character.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by SaiyanZ » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:54 pm

Doctor. wrote:If Kishimoto wrote Dragon Ball, Boo would have died in the most anti-climatic and lame way possible :lol:
Terrible fight. Mizuki might be better tbh :(
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:36 am

Kaguya fight lasted about as long as the Pure Buu fight, it seems.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by ImmaDeker » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:06 am

I don't understand the notion that a person's entire writing style would be based on one manga they've done.

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:44 am

Well some authors, like Rumiko Takahashi, have several well known series. So you can see that they have some form of mutual 'style' through their several works.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by ImmaDeker » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:08 am

Kid Buu wrote:Well some authors, like Rumiko Takahashi, have several well known series. So you can see that they have some form of mutual 'style' through their several works.
Right, but given my statement, it should be abundantly obvious to those with critical thinking skills that I am not talking about the discussion surrounding her.

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Herms » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:27 am

ImmaDeker wrote:Right, but given my statement, it should be abundantly obvious to those with critical thinking skills that I am not talking about the discussion surrounding her.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:15 pm

Anyway, if Hiro Mashima (Rave Master/Fairy Tail) wrote DB, Puar would be a mascot-type character. :lol:
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:45 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Anyway, if Hiro Mashima (Rave Master/Fairy Tail) wrote DB, Puar would be a mascot-type character. :lol:
And we would have a lot of fanservice and cliche friendship power beating everything.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:46 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Anyway, if Hiro Mashima (Rave Master/Fairy Tail) wrote DB, Puar would be a mascot-type character. :lol:
And we would have a lot of fanservice
I would be okay with this.
FortuneSSJ wrote:and cliche friendship power beating everything.
It does abuse that a fair amount, yeah (Fairy Tail I mean), but I'd still argue that it's one of the more enjoyable shonen fighting titles out there right now. Though to be fair, I can't speak on HxH at all since I refuse to check it out until it's actually...well, ended, given all of it's hiatuses.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:33 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I can't speak on HxH at all since I refuse to check it out until it's actually...well, ended, given all of it's hiatuses.
Wise decision. I started watching the series last year, first the original then the remake, and even so I think it was pretty early-
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by SaiyanZ » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:21 pm

Watch the HxH anime, 2011 version. It's much better at making the audience understand what's going on without the sketchy drawing by Togashi and is up there with Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood as a perfect adaptation of a shonen.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:42 pm

I wonder how it would turn out with Kubo. He seems to have a very good memory. So much so that he brought back something mentioned 300+ chapters ago. Plus we know what it would look like art wise -

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Doctor. » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:50 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I wonder how it would turn out with Kubo. He seems to have a very good memory. So much so that he brought back something mentioned 300+ chapters ago. Plus we know what it would look like art wise
Dragon Ball would be uninspired, boring and with no backgrounds :lol:

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:52 pm

Wow, Kubo's Vegeta looks like Kazuya from Tekken.
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