Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:47 am

VegettoEX wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:So in other words Toriyama wasn't involved a bit in the production of the manga.... But if Toriyama did not anything other than he actually read the manga before it was publicated, if it would have contained some plot errors, than he surely did not corrected it? To be clear... It's sure that Oishi Naho's manga is that we can read it now, and wasn't changed a bit by Toriyama?
Toriyama designed Chilled. That got a huge splash alongside the first chapter in the August 2011 issue of V-Jump.

There is absolutely zero reason to believe that he did anything (wrote, re-wrote, guided, suggested, etc.) with the story in any way, shape, or form. This is something they would have plugged the ever-living-Hell out of were it to have actually happened, as they did with Battle of Gods.
So it depends only on him to accept it as a part of his story, just like he did with Tsufuruians in a last interview.
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Post by sintzu » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:32 am

Low Tone G wrote:So it depends only on him to accept it as a part of his story, just like he did with Tsufuruians in a last interview.
He came up with the Tsufuruians' story so it's natural that he has it as part of the story.

If you want to compare Episode Of Bardock to something compare it to Bardock's 90's tv special where he only came up with the look of the characters but he ended up liking the story so much that he made it part of his.
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Post by Tyro » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:00 am

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Low Tone G wrote:So it depends only on him to accept it as a part of his story, just like he did with Tsufuruians in a last interview.
He came up with the Tsufuruians' story so it's natural that he has it as part of the story.

If you want to compare Episode Of Bardock to something compare it to Bardock's 90's tv special where he only came up with the look of the characters but he ended up liking the story so much that he made it part of his.
Except he's created a new Bardock since then that doesn't mesh with either of the previous incarnations. Blah blah "nothing is explicitly contradicted" blah blah.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Low Tone G » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:27 am

Really.... So we can assume that he didn't like the whole TV special, neither the character of Bardock as a whole, but mostly his appearance.


For the topic.... The whole resurrecting a BIG BAD totally reminds me of Movie 13. In the Battle of Gods it was revealed that Shenlon knows everything, so he possibly knows that the one who is being resurrected will provoke despair, but the one who says the wish believes that he will resurrect someone good. Just like in the case of Tapion.
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Post by Flame Dragon » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:41 am

Anyone else is sick of the stupid Evil Goku shit? Every freaking YouTuber and their mothers is using this fucking rumor for quick views.
I see this everywhere
DBZ MOVIE 2015 EVIL GOKU VS GOKU CONFIRMED!

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Post by Low Tone G » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:59 am

Flame Dragon wrote:Anyone else is sick of the stupid Evil Goku shit? Every freaking YouTuber and their mothers is using this fucking rumor for quick views.
I see this everywhere
DBZ MOVIE 2015 EVIL GOKU VS GOKU CONFIRMED!

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Ah.... well I don't think Goku would have any scenario to become evil, especially when he knew about his past in the Saiyan Arc, and decided to not turn against the Earth. Even if he would get back his lost memories, I don't think he would go bad.

And evil Goku from other universe it's probably unlikely because these universes don't appear to be alteranate ones of 7th. And also the film was tagged as a war between Gods.
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Post by Herms » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:06 am

Low Tone G wrote:And also the film was tagged as a war between Gods.
That's sort of misinformation too (the actual tagline just talks about a battle of "godly dimensions", which is open to interpretation). But yeah, so far there's absolutely nothing to support the idea of this movie featuring an "evil Goku", apart from Goku giving a kinda-sorta somewhat vaguely naughty smile in that one image.
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Post by Low Tone G » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:32 am

Herms wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:And also the film was tagged as a war between Gods.
That's sort of misinformation too (the actual tagline just talks about a battle of "godly dimensions", which is open to interpretation). But yeah, so far there's absolutely nothing to support the idea of this movie featuring an "evil Goku", apart from Goku giving a kinda-sorta somewhat vaguely naughty smile in that one image.
It wasn't tagged like this: "A Godly dimensional battle, war." ? By the way... Goku's smile for me it didn't suggest anything evil-looking, it's just a smile of Goku when he is about to have a good fight.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:48 am

Low Tone G wrote:It wasn't tagged like this: "A Godly dimensional battle, war." ? By the way... Goku's simle for me it didn't suggest anything evil-looking, it's just a smile of Goku when he is about to have a good fight.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:00 am

Low Tone G wrote:Really.... So we can assume that he didn't like the whole TV special, neither the character of Bardock as a whole, but mostly his appearance.
No, he has repeatedly said through the years that he liked the TV Special. It seems more like he considers the whole anime its own separate thing, and since he hasn't seen the TV Special for years now (he said he doesn't remember its details other than that he liked it a lot), he just told his own story with his own Bardock.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Low Tone G » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:07 am

I wonder if some other Gods will appear, they what would look like? They will be desinged as ancient animal-looking Egyptian Gods, like Beerus, or humaid-type Gods, like Whis or the Kaioshins?
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Post by sintzu » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:40 am

Low Tone G wrote:I wonder if some other Gods will appear, they what would look like? They will be desinged as ancient animal-looking Egyptian Gods, like Beerus, or humaid-type Gods, like Whis or the Kaioshins?
In an interview for BOG he said that he designed Beerus as an animal cause it was hard to come up with human designs so there's a big chance that they'll be the same.
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Post by Bullza » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:59 am

If they do have other Gods of Destruction in any upcoming movies then I do hope they all share a theme appearance wise. Beerus looks like the Egyptian God Anubis some Jackal looking thing.

I'm looking up the Egyptian Deities now and I can see a lot of them have animal appearances. A Falcon, Lion, Bull, Baboon, Ram, Cow, Crocodile, Hippo.

There's a evil God called Apep that is some Snake/Dragon/Lizard thing. Beerus was originally supposed to look like a lizard. So they could have something like that, a Komodo Dragon designed villain.

Yeah I think that would be an interesting way to go.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:06 pm

Flame Dragon wrote:Anyone else is sick of the stupid Evil Goku shit? Every freaking YouTuber and their mothers is using this fucking rumor for quick views.
I see this everywhere
DBZ MOVIE 2015 EVIL GOKU VS GOKU CONFIRMED!

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That' sounds like Unreal Gaming. i saw a video of his in the recommend feed, and it was titled something like "SSJ GOD BARDOCK CONFIRMED FOR MOVIE 15!" :roll:

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Post by Low Tone G » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:26 pm

Bullza wrote:If they do have other Gods of Destruction in any upcoming movies then I do hope they all share a theme appearance wise. Beerus looks like the Egyptian God Anubis some Jackal looking thing.

I'm looking up the Egyptian Deities now and I can see a lot of them have animal appearances. A Falcon, Lion, Bull, Baboon, Ram, Cow, Crocodile, Hippo.

There's a evil God called Apep that is some Snake/Dragon/Lizard thing. Beerus was originally supposed to look like a lizard. So they could have something like that, a Komodo Dragon designed villain.

Yeah I think that would be an interesting way to go.

I would like to see a Ram and a Bull just because Toriyama likes horn on his characters. I would like a Lion also.
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Post by Jackal puFF » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:33 pm

You know, I wouldn't mind seeing Bardock be the bad guy.. But with the recent stuff he's been in, I don't think that can happen. Since he's been shown more of a good guy.

Evil Goku, now that's ridiculous.

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Post by shadd21 » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:46 pm

If the other Hakaishin does show up i'm hoping they look along the lines of this.

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Post by Bullza » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:57 pm

I would like to see a Ram and a Bull just because Toriyama likes horn on his characters. I would like a Lion also.
The Bull would be a good one, people already familiarise them with being strong so that would fit pretty well with this series. Of course that was the other thing about Beerus his personality reflected the animal that he was supposed to be based on, a cat.

I dunno about something like a Ram or a Cow though, they aren't exactly the most intimidating looking animal. It wouldn't surprise me if Toriyama did go with something like that though but I don't think I could take an evil villain that looked like a Cow seriously.

Things with long snouts like Crocodiles might be an awkward design too.

After the Lizard, I'd go with the Falcon. I could picture a intelligent, cunning, evil, humanoid Falcon with sharp talons that could cut Goku's head off.

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Post by sintzu » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:00 pm

shadd21 wrote:If the other Hakaishin does show up i'm hoping they look along the lines of this.

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Those look epic.
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Post by Bullza » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:14 pm

If the other Hakaishin does show up i'm hoping they look along the lines of this.
The thing about that picture though is that it clearly shows the difference between Toriyama and all these fan artists. Those are mostly unoriginal designs and you could easily pick them out as being fan made or filler designs. The good thing about Toriyama is that all his villains look completely unique and fresh. The one in the middle at the top is pretty good though.

I saw this drawing that I thought was good.

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