Really? I was told different in the old thread... can I get some specifics?
From DBZ Volume 14, DB Volume 30, Pages 116-117
Yamcha: Then what's the point of you comning to the past if your future isn't going to change?
Trunks: Mom said it's so horrible what the Androids did to us..That there deserves to be a peaceful future where they've been destroyed. But also, maybe I could fina a weakness by watching Goku fight them. And if that didn't work, maybe we could bring Goku to our future with the time machine.
Oh, there's a timeline in the daizenshuu, and it's been floating around the internet for years. I actually have no idea how accurate it is, but everyon else seems to agree on it (though, if the information is wrong, I'd love to know).
We know that Trunks must have been born before the androids showed up in May of 767, if he was a year old (which I thought he was stated as being) then he had to have been born between June 765 and May 766.
So, Trunks was born either 765 or 766, and he says he came back from the year 765 (788 - 3), so that would make him 19 or 20.
Problem is, I don't remember years (or Ages) ever being stated before Trunks blurts out "788", so it's hard to backtrack to a tee. Ya know? The Daizenshuu isn't always the best place for acurate numbers. Hell they;ve directly contradicted Manga PL's at times. But please correct me if I am wrong.
Not bad. But I'm confussed as to how the timeline moving forward would cause the machine to propell itself further backwards through time. I always assumed the time machine had a set 'date' that it would go to, what you seem to be saying is that it was designed to go back or forward in time a certain amount of time. But if Trunks' machine was set to go back 18 years, shouldn't he just end up in 770? If the machine was set for the same date back when he last used it, in 785, it would be a timejump of -18 years, but because it's 788 now he should have put in -21 years.
Why would Cell be sent back to 763 when the timemachine's set for 770?
Well, as my theory states, there's 2 dials....1 that sets the current date & one that sets where you want to go. Perhaps Trunks never reset them & the fact that the current day date would be offset by 4 years, screwed things up & the fact that they were an extra 4 years into the future from the date that was already set as the current date, acctually propelled Cell backwards an extra 4 years. So bassically for my theory to work only 1 year could have passed in Trunks time between his Freeza fight & his return.
Like I said, I know it's crazy, but to be honest, Trunks doesn't appear to age much, if at all between his first 2 trips to the past, so I doubt 2-3 full years could have passed. Remember how each time he exited the chamber he was taller & his facial features looked older?
I mean, Cell's 24 year line is completely bogus, because any way that you look at it, it results in
4 years having to pass in Trunks world inbetween his fight with Freeza & his return...& that just cannot be. Even trying to backtrack ages, doesn't help.....if you take Age 788, & subtract off 3 years which represents the time inbetween Trunks killing the Droids & Cell's arrival, you get Age 785, then if we assume only 1 year passed in Trunks time between his battle with Freeza & his return to the past, 785-1=784. Then if you subtract off the other 20 years that Trunks stated he traveled back, you get Age 764. Yet, now if you take the fact that Cell is from Age 788 & subtract off the 24 years he says it'll take for him to be born, you get 764 again, so the math fails to add up. It would mean that Trunks fight against Freeza & Piccolo's battle against Cell both fall in 764...which is of corse impossible. Plus, like I said, for the 24 year line to be correct, that means that Trunks would have to be 24.5 years old when Cell arrives, yet when you add up his age & you exclude the Time Chamber, even at the maximum limit for his stay back in the future before coming back again, it still makes Trunks too young.
17 (his original age) + 3 years (the maximum he could have been back in the future) = 20 + 3 years (for Cell's arrival) = 23 Years Old.....still 1.5 years off. We just have to face that going week after week took it's toll on Toriyama & he screwed up, so Trunks age all comes down to theories.
Edit: Oh, I just now compared images of Trunks to Present Time Trunks during the Budokai 10 years after Buu.....we know Trunks is 18 years old there, so I figure, if he looks close in facial comparison to Trunks During the Android Saga (Pre-Time Chamber), then that must be some good proof that that Trunks in the Android Saga was 18....& sure enough they do look alike. Trunks is one of the only characters that Toriyama gave slight feature changes to in the facial area every time that Trunks woukd age. Think, when you look at a worried or pissed off face of Trunks in the Trunks Saga, it looks younger than Trunks during the Android Saga. Pull out your Manga & do some comparisons. Also, if you compare short haired Trunks after his 1'st Time chamber to Android Saga Trunks, you'll notice more facial changes that do not look like Teden Present Trunks.
[b]Vegito:[/b] What do you call a Goku & a Vegeta? Gogeta sounds nice.
[b]Toriyama:[/b] *wak*
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