Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:11 pm

Dyno wrote:Multiverse arc would be pretty much the same concept of Dragon Ball GT
Huh? In what way? GT was essentially every other Dragon Ball arc ever done before GT cobbled together.

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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by Hujio » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:17 pm

SRB2Unleashed wrote:Especially since Toriyama said something along the lines of this was an idea he had for the manga but never got to do. Whether that just means reviving Freeza or if this whole God arc was something he planned to execute in the manga.
First off, loving the discussion so far. Secondly, minor correction for you. Toriyama never said that this was a story he wanted to do for the manga but for some reason couldn't. The idea that he said that actually comes from a rather significant mistranslation from ANN that unfortunately spread across the internet (prior to them correcting it) and seems to be what most people remember. What Toriyama actually said was, he developed the story "as though it were a continuation of the manga when it was in serialization". Big difference. This is a completely new idea on his part, not something he came up with 10-15 years ago.
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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by Dyno » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:26 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Huh? In what way? GT was essentially every other Dragon Ball arc ever done before GT cobbled together.
Traveling through space, making a stop in every/some planet(s), adventuring (Dragon Ball old times)...

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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:37 pm

Dyno wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Huh? In what way? GT was essentially every other Dragon Ball arc ever done before GT cobbled together.
Traveling through space, making a stop in every/some planet(s), adventuring (Dragon Ball old times)...
GT still recyled a crap load of stuff done in DB and DBZ arcs. The Black Star Dragon Ball arc is essentially Emperor Pilaf arc set in space, the Baby arc is practically a note by note copy of the Saiyan Arc and the Garlic Jr arc, the Super 17 arc is essentially the Android and Cell arcs all over again and the Shadow Dragon arc is... well, actually pretty original. :P

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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by Dyno » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:41 pm

Indeed. It is just that traveling through the multiverses will be pretty much the same of what we have already seen in Dragon Ball GT. Even being said that, I am actually pretty curious to know other races. Akira Toriyama better learn quickly how to come up with something different, if not, we will see a lot of alien animals populating these worlds. :lol:

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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:49 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I mean, I guess I can see him doing it. But based on what Beerus implied to Goku, he would probably last less in another universe. lol. As far as Goku and co are concerned, why follow him?
I never said Goku should follow him, just that Freeza ending up in one of them (by choice or not) and deciding to try and rule it would be perfectly logical. He can't rule his own universe because Goku and the gang keep defeating him (because Freeza is stupid and keeps trying to challenge them instead of staying the hell away from Earth). Nothing Beerus said implies Freeza wouldn't last very long in them though. He basically said "I don't know what's in those other universe, but there could be strong people."
Dayspring wrote:I thought the Universe claim meant the realms of the cosmos. For example: Beerus's plane, Kaioshinkai, the Mortal Realm, the Afterlife, the Demon Realm, and possible the Room of Spirit and Time.
Even ignoring the guidebooks on the subject, as mentioned above, Beerus talks about the potential for strong people being in these other universes during the film, but says he doesn't actually have any idea what's in them. So that's definitely not the case seeing how he's already visited multiple realms during the movie.
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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by mAcChaos » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:34 am

What if Goku ends up wanting Freeza to live, because he'd be such a good opponent to fight?
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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by Bullza » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:45 am

What if Goku ends up wanting Freeza to live, because he'd be such a good opponent to fight?
Then that would just be a recycled idea of what was already done twice before. If Vegeta is the one to defeat Frieza whereas Goku fails then Vegeta would be a good opponent for him and there'd be no need to let Frieza live just for that, not to mention there's also Beerus and Whis who would also make good opponents.

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Re: Freeza's overall role in this God Arc

Post by sintzu » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:38 am

Bullza wrote:
What if Goku ends up wanting Freeza to live, because he'd be such a good opponent to fight?
Then that would just be a recycled idea of what was already done twice before. If Vegeta is the one to defeat Freeza whereas Goku fails then Vegeta would be a good opponent for him and there'd be no need to let Freeza live just for that, not to mention there's also Beerus and Whis who would also make good opponents.
Plus this will be the 3rd time he tries to Kill him and everyone one else so I doubt anyone is going to want him to live.
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