Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:36 pm

Blog 50 days aka Revival of “F”urukawa :lol: :lol:

"This time Piccolo has a big role too, and I gave the intense fight scenes all I had. It’s the Revival of “F”urukawa (laughs).
The highlights this time are definitely the battle scenes, with “battle” written in wild and crazy letters."

Day after day, this blog makes my hype bigger. Its a good thing but at the same time a torture. :P
Piccolo, Roshi and Tenshihan don't have a proper fight in a movie since a long time.

-Freeza becoming good-
Not gonna happen. Not only the fans, but the cast and even Toriyama himself love Freeza for the same reason: He's evil to the core.
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So you predicted :

Vegeta having a brother ?
Beerus and Whis ?
Super Saiyan God ?
Goku losing against Beerus ?
Vegeta getting a huge power up in BOG ?
The 12 universes ?
Freeza coming back to life ?
Goku&Vegeta training with Whis ?
Freeza getting a new form ?
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Post by Kakarot9001 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:37 pm

I want Goku to destroy Freeza just like he did in DBGT Final Bout Opening

I would be rolling in laughs

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Post by lord turbo » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:56 pm

sintzu wrote:
rereboy wrote:Just because you disagree with their reasons it doesn't mean they aren't valid.
It depends.

The new one is Freeza's training which I don't get cause we've seen time and again characters getting a lot stronger then they were in short periods of time so why is just a problem now ?
The only characters I can recall that got a lot stronger in short periods of time are the Saiyajins in general and there's a good reason why they do what they do. Anyone else I'm unaware of?

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Post by Beerus-sama » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:04 pm

I'm liking those blog posts of Bulma, we get to see the character and voice actors point of view on the movie and recently of the series from Furukawa.
I love reading comments like that :D
My favorite right now is Vegeta's and Freeza (that one was so funny) :D
Hoping to get Beerus and Yamadera Kouichi in some of these entries :3
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TheGmGoken wrote:Toriyama hasn't been unpredictable in 20 years.
So you predicted :

Vegeta having a brother ?
Beerus and Whis ?
Super Saiyan God ?
Goku losing against Beerus ?
Vegeta getting a huge power up in BOG ?
The 12 universes ?
Freeza coming back to life ?
Goku&Vegeta training with Whis ?
Freeza getting a new form ?
9-0. Will you get up, TheGmGoken?!
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Retan » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:08 pm

I don't think Freeza will become good, I am starting to think he'll win the fight though. :twisted:

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Post by Dyno » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:10 pm

Well, "losing" is not an option. He must win, or the fight will be interrupted for something else.

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Post by Retan » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:17 pm

See I could totally see them treating him and his 4 months of training much like a lot of critics are. In the end he proves right.

But I don't think he'll kill them though, instead leaving with message of what Goku left him with. That would be much worst to them then Death.

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Post by snaku » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:21 pm

Dyno wrote:Well, "losing" is not an option. He must win, or the fight will be interrupted for something else.
I think he'll end up becoming the God of destruction in another universe. Someone like Whis will take him away after sensing his new power.

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Post by Bonus Stage » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:26 pm

it has a joke with the new movie?

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:29 pm

I, too, doubt that they revived Freeza just to kill him off at the end of the movie. But I'm not sure of what they can do with his character from this point forth and I'm not exactly fond of the idea of him staying alive either.

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Post by Dyno » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:34 pm

Agreed. That is why it would be beyond "perfection" to revive someone new, an old threat... I don't know. Although when you speak about "old threat", we already have Buu...

EDIT: Seriously... It is about time Dragon Ball Online/Dragon Ball Xenoverse to be incorporated, with their plot we could see a wonderful future for Dragon Ball franchise.

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Post by Kakarot9001 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:42 pm

Dyno wrote:Agreed. That is why it would be beyond "perfection" to revive someone new, an old threat... I don't know. Although when you speak about "old threat", we already have Buu...

EDIT: Seriously... It is about time Dragon Ball Online/Dragon Ball Xenoverse to be incorporated, with their plot we could see a wonderful future for Dragon Ball franchise.
Not at all.

GT > DBO

If the story of DBO went sucessfull then they would make an OVA, Special something about it... That was not the case

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Post by Herms » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:49 pm

Bonus Stage wrote:it has a joke with the new movie?

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No, it's just a parody of that famous scene from the main series:

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Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:51 pm

I think there may be to it than that. When DBO was made they only had the manga rights and not the anime rights so maybe Toei didn't have the rights to use anything from DBO in return, maybe.

While I wouldn't want DBO/Xenoverse to be part of any future movies, it's premise and ideas would have made for something far better than GT which was just downright trash.

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Post by lord turbo » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:55 pm

sintzu wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
sintzu wrote:If this is a reason to say the movie is bad then why don't you say the Cell arc is bad because Cell could have trained after surviving blowing himself up but instead went back only to get killed.
Cell wasn't far off in power from SSJ2 Gohan w/o rage.
But why not train to get even stronger ? if they're going to use this type of logic against the new movie then why not use it here ?
Different characteristics for different people. Cell's character is that he craves the attention and challenge, Its all of the negative qualities of Goku's previous enemies mixed together in the form of Cell. He even mentions to Trunks he delights in the sheer terror he can cause by putting despair on people's face by proving all their efforts are futile. Its why he wanted Goku to eat that senzu bean, its the thrill man, and Cell was a person that lived on the edge and also died on it too.

Your logic here doesn't fit with said character, doesn't fit with Buu either if you were to use him next. Also, I agree with Rereboy, Freeza's choices in RoF just come off as strange and out there due to what we know of him beforehand. He's so paranoid he takes all precautions to kill off any threat that may arise, but doesn't take in the most basic such as training. You say he didn't training because he thought his current strength was enough, but apparanently he felt these people could rivavl or surpass his strength in time if left unchecked which is why he got rid of them, didn't want anyone to challenge his throne as the strongest.

To me states he''s not even 100% confident in his own current abilities if he goes through so much trouble just to keep his title as the strongest. What's worse he's fully aware of Beerus and Majin Buu now, yet still doesn't take the time to train to become god tier to take care of those two as well? Freeza's pride won't allow anyone else to be stronger than him, yet he's okay with these two still kicking around out there somewhere. That's what happens when you introduced new things decades later and don't take into account Freeza's characterization and motives before make new material with him.

Now that I think about it, why didn't Sorbet and Tagoma seek out Avo and Cado? They supposedly rivaled Freeza according to Tarble and were running his organization during his demise, yet they aren't seeked out by those two. Why revive Freeza when you got two capable Freeza tier people already? They weren't dictators either as they looked pretty cool, reasonable, and chilled from what we say in the Tarble special, yet you want to revive someone much worst in character compared to them?

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Post by Dyno » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:10 pm

Of what Dragon Ball Online/Dragon Ball Xenoverse showed to us, Mira and Towa (and Demigra)... All of these/them are way better than what Dragon Ball GT presented. Much more interesting (it even gave Bardock a worthy and rightfully role) with a hundred of ways Dragon Ball could freely choose to follow and run for more years, even decades.

I will not push this further, but... There it is, Online/Xenoverse must be the future of the series, or... We can have Freeza's death in this movie, making it be the most pointless thing which could came out in modern Dragon Ball.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:30 pm

I bet if we'd gotten a new lead villain for this movie, there wouldn't be so much arguing. Freeza carries way more baggage than a fresh face would. It's bringing the whole thread down, repeatedly. @_@

What kind of antagonist was everyone hoping to see? I wanted a reality-warper.
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Post by radrappy » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:36 pm

Chuquita wrote:I bet if we'd gotten a new lead villain for this movie, there wouldn't be so much arguing. Freeza carries way more baggage than a fresh face would. It's bringing the whole thread down, repeatedly. @_@

What kind of antagonist was everyone hoping to see? I wanted a reality-warper.
Pretty much. Everyone is whining and moaning about Freeza coming back because they wanted a new character completely. The problem is that it would have just ended up as Janemba/Demigra/hildegarn 2.0. I'm super excited with what we have because of who is involved. This is a man who only writes what he feels like, when he feels like it. If he's excited about an idea involving an old character, by god I'm all for it. It feels perfectly circular to me to see this villain again and have him literally struggle for relevance. The idea of Freeza's remnants being leaderless has been something hanging around that frankly has been crying out for resolution.

The genius of bringing Freeza back is that it cements these movies as manga-related canon in ways a new character or Broly never would have been able to.

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Post by voltlunok » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:39 pm

Chuquita wrote:I bet if we'd gotten a new lead villain for this movie, there wouldn't be so much arguing. Freeza carries way more baggage than a fresh face would. It's bringing the whole thread down, repeatedly. @_@

What kind of antagonist was everyone hoping to see?
I am inclined to agree. I kinda stopped poking in here daily due to the multiple yelling matches. I think what we're getting for this movie is clashing heavily with other people's personal view of Freeza, A fresh face would carry more interest. Though I think if the story had some tweaks and something was controlling Freeza then it would open a few easier doors for Toriyama to write through. Such as a decent way to redeem or at least let Freeza live. Not that I want him to live...but hey there are options. I just wish something would return the thread to normality...
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Post by Dyno » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:42 pm

radrappy wrote:The problem is that it would have just ended up as Janemba 2.0.
No, it is not a problem at all, Janemba came up with the most fantastic Marvel-ish abilities. He can alter reality and matter just joking around. The problem is that he was not well developed (though his design was, such a badass looking villain). A Janemba 2.0 would be awesome if it is to bring back someone we already know.
radrappy wrote:The genius of bringing Freeza back is that it cements these movies as manga-related canon in ways a new character or Broly never would have been able to.
This I will have to agree. No way that thing must belong to the canon continuity. Such a disgraceful character. :problem:

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