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Post by DBZ_Lee » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:17 pm

Bardo117 wrote:Didn't they say they were only releasing 3 Volumes a year?
It was said on their original Press Release here:
http://www.viz.com/node/1006052

Though I just don't know if that can be taken as gospel, as they've never acknowledged it within social media.

I do know that the 3-in-1's are about to hit the Namek Saga at the start of March, so it could be they don't want two releases from the same part of the story out too close together, and the poor quality 3-in-1's sales would plummet, so hopefully they'll announce the color release a little while after.

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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:01 pm

Wish they were a bit cheaper but alas, i want the whole series in English and color digitally right now! Eventually it will all be released.

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Post by GTx10 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:05 pm

Speaking of Manga how do I read the entirely of Dragon Ball/Z on digital release? I joined Viz but will getting the yearly Viz/Shonen Jump digital releases allow me access to all of Dragon Ball/Z and all of Jaco? Or do I actually have to buy each volume piece by piece?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:16 pm

If you subscribe to Viz's digital Shonen Jump, you'll only get what is in the magazine issues. If they aren't running Dragon Ball, then you won't be getting it. You'll have to purchase the digital volumes: 1 for Jaco and 42 for DB/Z.
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Post by GTx10 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:22 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If you subscribe to Viz's digital Shonen Jump, you'll only get what is in the magazine issues. If they aren't running Dragon Ball, then you won't be getting it. You'll have to purchase the digital volumes: 1 for Jaco and 42 for DB/Z.

EH?! The Jaco isn't bad. The whole story plus the Minus special for less than 10 USD is great. But to buy 42 volumes of Dragon Ball at individual prices?! Yeah that...goodness.
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Post by TheKingOfKamehamehas » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:32 pm

GTx10 wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If you subscribe to Viz's digital Shonen Jump, you'll only get what is in the magazine issues. If they aren't running Dragon Ball, then you won't be getting it. You'll have to purchase the digital volumes: 1 for Jaco and 42 for DB/Z.

EH?! The Jaco isn't bad. The whole story plus the Minus special for less than 10 USD is great. But to buy 42 volumes of Dragon Ball at individual prices?! Yeah that...goodness.
That is just how manga tends to be...You can get stuff a lot cheaper online by using Amazon and Deals in retail stores though.
For some weird reason, Japanese Manga is just as cheap maybe even cheaper than the Localized English manga. When it comes to anime though, Localized American anime is a lot less than the Japanese. Go Figure....
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:34 pm

It's not too bad. If you are patient, Viz often has sales for their digital releases. You can pick up "buy 2, get 1 free" deals, or sometimes they'll offer the volumes at a $1 or $2 discount.
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Post by GTx10 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:51 pm

Well after reading the preview of Jaco, I just had to invest more into it. I chose to "...support the Official release!" I bought me digital Jaco! Now when I see Revival of F I'll have a better idea of who Jaco is! Hmm I see, well I'll wait and see if I can get some sales on Dragon Ball/Z manga. But I thanks Devil and King for your explanation of Viz's dealings. I am now off to enjoy my adventures into Jaco!

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Post by Vegitofaxx » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:58 pm

Which of these would you choose? The Full color line with a new translation, or english kanzenban with the old translation?
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Post by Ajay » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:27 pm

Vegitofaxx wrote:Which of these would you choose? The Full color line with a new translation, or english kanzenban with the old translation?
Full colour with a new translation.

I don't feel like reading "What say you!? Know you not the one to whom you show such insolence!?" all over again. Posh Piccolo needs to vanish forever.

I hate seeing Hercule and Herculopolis. I don't like "Djinn Boo" (as valid as it may be), and "Zeta Sword" is such a strange choice. Why a Greek letter?!

The full size, beautifully coloured art with a new translation would be a dream. Throw in the honorifics to calm my inner weeab and we'll be good.
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Post by jrdemr » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:51 pm

Full Color with new translation, any day of the week. The only thing we'd even lose are some of the title pages, so, easy choice.

Dragon Ball has the unfortunate luck of being one of the earlier Viz titles, so it got the more heavily-adapted style they went with back then. They've since adopted a much more faithful and accurate translation style - as we could see with Jaco - but alas, fans of the earlier titles are stuck with the old translations. To get more Full Color volumes with a new translation would be a dream come true.

I've since given up and gotten the Japanese volumes. The artwork is as gorgeous as you'd expect, but I always felt it was kinda small for a full-color edition, and after seeing Viz's huge print, it's just blatantly obvious (especially when put side-by-side).

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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:58 pm

jrdemr wrote:Full Color with new translation, any day of the week. The only thing we'd even lose are some of the title pages, so, easy choice.

Dragon Ball has the unfortunate luck of being one of the earlier Viz titles, so it got the more heavily-adapted style they went with back then. They've since adopted a much more faithful and accurate translation style - as we could see with Jaco - but alas, fans of the earlier titles are stuck with the old translations. To get more Full Color volumes with a new translation would be a dream come true.

I've since given up and gotten the Japanese volumes. The artwork is as gorgeous as you'd expect, but I always felt it was kinda small for a full-color edition, and after seeing Viz's huge print, it's just blatantly obvious (especially when put side-by-side).
VIZ's history is kind of confusing to me because it seems they went back and forth a bit. The early prints for Yu-Gi-Oh and Dragon Ball that I have are uncensored and have plenty of curse words. (nothing serious you know, just more "damns" and stuff like that) And it seemed like they really went out of their way to stick to the original manga in some cases, like when they first started doing Yugioh. They could have stuck to the 4Kids names but they went all out and kept everything. (Jonochi, Honda, Anzu instead of Joey, Tristan, Tea, etc.) Then by the time the GX manga comes out, they stick to all the 4Kids dub names which are atrocious. The first four One Piece graphic novels had "Zoro" but then they changed to "Zolo" because of the 4Kids dub...

I keep hearing that VIZ was really bad and now they've gotten better, but it seems to me at one point they really had it down right and then they just effed it all up later on with all kinds of BS policy changes. To my understanding, they started censoring reprints of manga they used to sell uncensored when it started getting more main stream.

I will say it looks like VIZ is getting back to its roots somewhat, especially now that they've gone to weekly digital publications. Now it would be nice to see them correct some of their mistakes from the past, like a new DBZ translation. (though I honestly never had a problem with the original Dragon Ball translation) They did finally start selling unflopped InuYasha books ... lol

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Post by Mewzard » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:23 pm

The edits came around the time they rebranded from Viz to Viz Media. I assume the people in charge changed. They got better (when SJ started vs the years before) then worse (Viz Media rebranding) then better again (in a digital WSJ era).

Also, I distinctly remember Viz using Zoro and only changing it to Zolo in the same issue they interviewed the 4Kids voice actor for his character. I was a tad upset. Not as bothered now, but I still wish they'd fix it back.
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Post by jrdemr » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:53 pm

Ryuji-Otogi wrote:VIZ's history is kind of confusing to me because it seems they went back and forth a bit. The early prints for Yu-Gi-Oh and Dragon Ball that I have are uncensored and have plenty of curse words. (nothing serious you know, just more "damns" and stuff like that) And it seemed like they really went out of their way to stick to the original manga in some cases, like when they first started doing Yugioh. They could have stuck to the 4Kids names but they went all out and kept everything. (Jonochi, Honda, Anzu instead of Joey, Tristan, Tea, etc.) Then by the time the GX manga comes out, they stick to all the 4Kids dub names which are atrocious. The first four One Piece graphic novels had "Zoro" but then they changed to "Zolo" because of the 4Kids dub...

I keep hearing that VIZ was really bad and now they've gotten better, but it seems to me at one point they really had it down right and then they just effed it all up later on with all kinds of BS policy changes. To my understanding, they started censoring reprints of manga they used to sell uncensored when it started getting more main stream.

I will say it looks like VIZ is getting back to its roots somewhat, especially now that they've gone to weekly digital publications. Now it would be nice to see them correct some of their mistakes from the past, like a new DBZ translation. (though I honestly never had a problem with the original Dragon Ball translation) They did finally start selling unflopped InuYasha books ... lol
I wasn't really talking about name changes and censorship, more about the way they used a more creative translation as opposed to the more literal translations they use today. But yeah, as Mewzard said, they did go back and forth with their policies a bit, but it seems they've stabilized in recent years - in the right place, thankfully.

And yeah, the Dragon Ball translation isn't that bad, I personally just favor a more literal style of translating. That and it's got some things here and there that... really shouldn't be there. But personally, I'm much more bothered by the name changes and visual edits.

Besides the whole time and money issue, I'm starting to think Viz doesn't want to re-translate the manga because they don't want to open up a precedent. Because if they did it for Dragon Ball, people would start demanding they'd do it to their other older series (and even the more recent onces, just because they didn't agree with the translation) and they'd rather just be saved both the costs and the hassle.

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Post by TheRed259 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:58 am

AjayLikesGaming wrote:I hate seeing (the H-word) and Herculopolis. I don't like "Djinn Boo" (as valid as it may be), and "Zeta Sword" is such a strange choice. Why a Greek letter?!
Herculopolis is way more Greek than Zeta for me. Polis is actually the ancient Greek word for city (& citizenship). I know that some English words come from Greek Polis like Police (<politeia <polis) or Politics (<politikos <polites <polis) but I doubt if the term itself is used in English as it is.

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Post by MrKaytos » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:01 pm

Good news ;)

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:03 pm

So that's why I couldn't find this thread to post it in, and instead opted for this one,..."colour"...
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Post by Sora Saiyan » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:22 pm

Yes! It's about time! Viz just take my money.

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Post by sintzu » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:25 pm

Hopefully they announced the other arcs as well.
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But seriously though, I so glad the Full Colour Comics are returning. :)

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