When did Vegeta become a good guy?

[Vegitofaxx]

Well Vegeta became a good guy in my book when he killed himself to defeat Majin Boo and did it out of selflessness and not out of pride for the first time in his life.

But I have to ask, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all, but is the thread meant to be a joke? Because judging from the OP, it seems to be.

Yeah, i just wanted to show a fun thing i noticed. But why not make this the "Good guy'geta" thread?

[Berserker1921]

Well at the end of battle of gods. Supreme Kai stated that even though earth is flawed and so are humans. They have a certain charm on those that live there. He became a better person because of loving his family and wouldn't admit it but by making friends with goku and the gang. Also when he go rid of those feelings of trying to become stronger then goku and accept his place as number 2. He became a better person.

[CordonBloo]

I would say it was when he sacrificed himself to take out Boo and failed, that was his retribution moment.

Enma said he kept his body around "just incase" but then shortly after Porunga decided Vegeta was a good guy so I'd say it was around there yeah.

[Deathbringer]

During the Namek Arc he goes from villain to antihero since he's basically forced to work alongside Krillin and Gohan but he's still ruthless and big headed

Then in the Android/Cell arcs he becomes even more of a main cast member by having a child with Bulma so he has a responsibility and definitely grows to be more caring

The Boo saga is where he releases a lot of pent-up rage against Goku that he has been keeping locked up for years about how he has constantly been surpassed by him, a low level Saiyan, surpassing the Prince of all Saiyans! The arrogance continues to shine through clearly...but eventually he realises that he should be more focussed on his family and he pays for his sins through sacrifice. Of course it doesn't show all of this on the surface because Vegeta doesn't say any of this outright and neither does the story because that would take away the subtlety of one of the best developed characters in all of DB.

In fact in Battle of Gods he has resigned himself to training hard but also caring for his family as a citizen of Earth, even allowing his pride to be put on the line to save planet earth by singing the bingo song. And showing he cares for Bulma with "THAT'S MY BULMAAAAAA"

So he still does evil things as an antihero but by the end of that whole Majin Vegeta business he goes full-on good guy.

[DBZAOTA482]

When he and Goku both fought against Kid Boo, and came in terms with Goku being better than him is when he officially became a good guy.

[Mystic Tien]

Somewhere post-Buu arc, in Buu arc he still had a lot of pride and arrogance with him, he also didn't hesitate to kill a bunch of men, while Babidi wasn't even controlling him. But somewhere after Buu arc he managed to became a proper good man. Of course he is not an angel, but I think his massacre is done now. He won't kill any human anymore, he found happiness in living with his family and having a close friend and rival right near him, always ready to take a challenge. He is a man who is ready now to fight for his family and Earth, so he may be properly called a changed man and good guy after Buu arc, as we may see in BoG.

[dbzfan7]

I prefer to say on the side of good, than good guy. I dunno I don't see him being good like Krillin, Tenshinhan, or even Piccolo. Vegeta I see someone doing good cause it's convenient to him. If a city blows up, I don't think he'd give a shit as long as it's not someone from his family who died along with it. He's just under good for me. Not evil, but not quite someone I'd call good either. Leans closer to good, but isn't quite there. That's my opinion though.

[Vegitofaxx]

I prefer to say on the side of good, than good guy. I dunno I don't see him being good like Krillin, Tenshinhan, or even Piccolo. Vegeta I see someone doing good cause it's convenient to him. If a city blows up, I don't think he'd give a shit as long as it's not someone from his family who died along with it. He's just under good for me. Not evil, but not quite someone I'd call good either. Leans closer to good, but isn't quite there. That's my opinion though.

I'd compare him to Alucard(obviously on a much smaller extent) He's on the good side, but he's not a good person(not completely)

[dbzfan7]

I prefer to say on the side of good, than good guy. I dunno I don't see him being good like Krillin, Tenshinhan, or even Piccolo. Vegeta I see someone doing good cause it's convenient to him. If a city blows up, I don't think he'd give a shit as long as it's not someone from his family who died along with it. He's just under good for me. Not evil, but not quite someone I'd call good either. Leans closer to good, but isn't quite there. That's my opinion though.

I'd compare him to Alucard(obviously on a much smaller extent) He's on the good side, but he's not a good person(not completely)

Well he's not quite Alucard bad as he currently is, but yeah I can see the comparison. Alucard really only fights for whatever Integra says. There's no real good or bad. Vegeta only cares if say Bulma were in trouble.

[Vegitofaxx]

I prefer to say on the side of good, than good guy. I dunno I don't see him being good like Krillin, Tenshinhan, or even Piccolo. Vegeta I see someone doing good cause it's convenient to him. If a city blows up, I don't think he'd give a shit as long as it's not someone from his family who died along with it. He's just under good for me. Not evil, but not quite someone I'd call good either. Leans closer to good, but isn't quite there. That's my opinion though.

I'd compare him to Alucard(obviously on a much smaller extent) He's on the good side, but he's not a good person(not completely)

Well he's not quite Alucard bad as he currently is, but yeah I can see the comparison. Alucard really only fights for whatever Integra says. There's no real good or bad. Vegeta only cares if say Bulma were in trouble.

Bulma: "Vegetaaaa! We're out of milk"
Vegeta: "Everybody must die..."

[Hellspawn28]

This is how I view Vegeta:

Saiyan Saga - Bad
Namek saga - Buu saga (Before turning Majin) - Anti Hero and bad when becoming Majin Vegeta
Buu saga (After death) - EOZ - Good
Bebi Saga - Good and becomes bad when Bebi took over his body
Super 17 - Shadow Dragon saga - Good

[Lord Beerus]

This is how I view Vegeta:

Saiyan Saga - Bad
Namek saga - Buu saga (Before turning Majin) - Anti Hero and bad when becoming Majin Vegeta
Buu saga (After death) - EOZ - Good
Bebi Saga - Good and becomes bad when Bebi took over his body
Super 17 - Shadow Dragon saga - Good

Yeah, that sums it up pretty well.

[Vegitofaxx]

This is how I view Vegeta:

Saiyan Saga - Bad
Namek saga - Buu saga (Before turning Majin) - Anti Hero and bad when becoming Majin Vegeta
Buu saga (After death) - EOZ - Good
Bebi Saga - Good and becomes bad when Bebi took over his body
Super 17 - Shadow Dragon saga - Good

I would say he's still bad in the beginning of the Namek arc.

[mAcChaos]

I prefer to say on the side of good, than good guy. I dunno I don't see him being good like Krillin, Tenshinhan, or even Piccolo. Vegeta I see someone doing good cause it's convenient to him. If a city blows up, I don't think he'd give a shit as long as it's not someone from his family who died along with it. He's just under good for me. Not evil, but not quite someone I'd call good either. Leans closer to good, but isn't quite there. That's my opinion though.

But would he let them do it? There's a difference between being emotionally upset by it, and just letting it happen anyway.

If a bad guy came and blew up a city Vegeta wouldn't just sit there.

[dbzfan7]

I prefer to say on the side of good, than good guy. I dunno I don't see him being good like Krillin, Tenshinhan, or even Piccolo. Vegeta I see someone doing good cause it's convenient to him. If a city blows up, I don't think he'd give a shit as long as it's not someone from his family who died along with it. He's just under good for me. Not evil, but not quite someone I'd call good either. Leans closer to good, but isn't quite there. That's my opinion though.

But would he let them do it? There's a difference between being emotionally upset by it, and just letting it happen anyway.

If a bad guy came and blew up a city Vegeta wouldn't just sit there.

Well no cause then Bulma would get pissed at him. Deep down he really doesn't give a shit. However if Bulma knew he let a city die, then he'd regret it.

[Mystic Tien]

Deep down he really doesn't give a shit

We don't know it. In Buu arc sure he didn't. But it is not Buu arc anymore.

[Logan]

Three big turning points, I think.

During the end of the Cell saga when Vegeta apologizes to Gohan for his botched attempt at fighting back. Vegeta never apologizes and certainly never cares about anyone other than himself.

When he discovers that Gohan has "died" at the hands of Majin Boo and resolves to avenge him for Goku and atone for letting his ego get in the way.

Vegeta finally swallows his pride and admits that Goku is number one.

[Hellspawn28]

I would say he's still bad in the beginning of the Namek arc.

Yeah but I think he quickly became a anti hero once he meets Gohan and Kuririn on Namek.

[dbzfan7]

Deep down he really doesn't give a shit

We don't know it. In Buu arc sure he didn't. But it is not Buu arc anymore.

Vegeta ain't Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha, or even Piccolo. He's not someone to really be effected if a city was destroyed.

[dae428]

I've always thought that Vegeta steadily became good after the events of Cell up until the Boo arc. However, the problem with him was that he was in denial and couldn't really accept that he had become good (good as in actually caring about the people around him (though the idea of good is a bit of a vague notion given that in this day and age I guess there are different interpretations as to what good actually is)) until either during the Boo arc where he sacrificed himself to try to kill Boo or when he finally accepted that Goku was number 1.