New "Remastered Box Set" Information

[Eclipse]

In that case, then it's safe to assume they possibly might be dropping at LEAST ONE audio track. Probably one of the English ones (the 2.1 or the 5.1 possibly).

[Li'l Lemmy]

I just checked over at the Funimation forums and unfortunatly we seem to be a minority. Most responses seem to be: Oh well, I don't mind the widescreen so much. Look at all this cool footage we get on the sides! I love you Funimation.

We're a specific community, with specific tastes. I'd be surprised if we weren't a majority here, but at the same time I highly doubt that we are as such anywhere else-- and those are the places FUNimation is actually looking for feedback. Though there's always the exception of the AoD Forums.

[MagicBox]

I just checked over at the Funimation forums and unfortunatly we seem to be a minority. Most responses seem to be: Oh well, I don't mind the widescreen so much. Look at all this cool footage we get on the sides! I love you Funimation.

I don't think we're looking at the same forum. FUNimation's forum has gotten over twice as many members since the widescreen news was revealed, who all just joined for the purpose of complaining. The season set discussion thread is filled with complaints, and anyone who says it's not that big of a deal gets about three responces explaining why it is. There's even a two page petition thread begging FUNi to reconsider their decision and another topic where one member is outright demanding an apology from FUNi.

Trust me, if FUNi executives go to that forum, they'll realize that people aren't pleased.

[Li'l Lemmy]

I don't think we're looking at the same forum. FUNimation's forum has gotten over twice as many members since the widescreen news was revealed, who all just joined for the purpose of complaining.

Really? I joined that forum almost entirely for the purposes of calming people down (when everything was still rumor and speculation)-- that is, until the comparison images came out. Then it just seemed like all hell broke loose between the people who are writing in no uncertain terms how much FUNimation sucks (ah, yes . . . that will help) and those who are telling those same people not to take it so seriously. I honestly couldn't tell which way the board was leaning! I wasn't about to get caught in the crossfire, so I came running back home.

The season set discussion thread is filled with complaints, and anyone who says it's not that big of a deal gets about three responces explaining why it is. There's even a two page petition thread begging FUNi to reconsider their decision and another topic where one member is outright demanding an apology from FUNi.

The apology, I think, is a bit much . . . but the petition seems reasonable, so long as they keep flaming and swears out of it.

Hey, I know you! You're the one with that big screaming mouth for an avatar!

[MagicBox]

Personally, the only audio tracks I want are the revised English dub with Japanese music in stereo, and the original Japanese mono. 5.1 English would be awesome, but I think that's demanding a little too much from the original mono music, so I'd be fine with stereo, like the Dragon Ball dub had.

The apology, I think, is a bit much . . . but the petition seems reasonable, so long as they keep flaming and swears out of it.

Actually, the petition thread has taken a few wierd turns. It started with people signing names, then led to people begging for Faulconer's music in the Saiyan Saga, then it led to people arguing, then it ended with the original thread-maker recalling his petition because he decided the widescreen look was "cooler", which led to more arguing.

Needless to say, they're not getting anywhere.

Hey, I know you! You're the one with that big screaming mouth for an avatar!

Yup!

[DBZ-Guy]

Wow, this is disapointing. I was going to get a couple of these but looking at the comparison shoots i think i'd rather not. Disapointing FUNimation, very disapointing.

[Maphisto86]

Yeah I really do not understand how they screwed themselves by doing this in widescreen... I mean holy hell. It was close to perfect. I'm still glad I haven't bought anything yet. I will wait until I'm satisfied with the sets.... I dunno I might get it but if important stuff is cropped out then no sorry Funi.

[ssjBardock]

WTF!!! I do understand what is going on so help me out here!

1. Japanese scores
2. Cropped footage and widescreen
3. Please help find the quote from Lance on Animeondvd.com

I got my box set at rightstuf at aroumd what $35 is this good?

[BrollysKin]

WTF!!! I do understand what is going on so help me out here!

1. Japanese scores
2. Cropped footage and widescreen
3. Please help find the quote from Lance on Animeondvd.com

I got my box set at rightstuf at aroumd what $35 is this good?

What?

You do understand, and you want us to help you out?

Yes the boxes have copped footage and are widescreen.

Yes there is a japanese score.

What quote are you talking about?

[ssjBardock]

WTF!!! I do understand what is going on so help me out here!

1. Japanese scores
2. Cropped footage and widescreen
3. Please help find the quote from Lance on Animeondvd.com

I got my box set at rightstuf at aroumd what $35 is this good?

What?

You do understand, and you want us to help you out?

Yes the boxes have copped footage and are widescreen.

Yes there is a japanese score.

What quote are you talking about?

The very first post in this thread.
thanks and sorry for my...oblivious mind

[Kula]

Here is a draft of the letter that I going to send to Funimation. I will include the names of everyone who has PM'd me. Any thoughts, suggestions or things to add to the letter would be appreciated...

Dear Sir / Madam
I am writing to you about your recent announcement regarding the ‘Vegeta Saga Box Set’ for Dragon Ball Z. As a Dragon Ball Z fan in the UK, these box sets would enable me to finally collect the entire DBZ series cheaply and in a consistent order. Remastered video, high episode count and Japanese music with the English dub are all great reasons for me to invest in them.

However, your decision to cut down the original 4:3 image to widescreen is something that I and many other people are displeased with. Several users on the ‘Daizenshuu EX’ forum (http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=4405), ‘Anime on DVD’ forum (http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtop ... tid/14650/) and even your own forum have expressed their displeasure with this announcement.

Your recent online trailer claims that these sets will allow us to ‘experience the classic series as it was originally intended’ and there will be ‘no compromises’. Taking a 4:3 series and essentially removing 20% of it from the top and bottom is certainly not how the series was ‘orignally intended’ nor does this show ‘no compromises’.

I and several others in the online DBZ community are very grateful to Funimation for putting out these box sets, but we view this cropping as something completely unnecessary, especially considering the amount of effort put into remastering the video. Why take so much time to restore the video and then remove 20% of it?
We believe that releasing this box set in full screen or as a simultaneous full screen and widescreen release would be beneficial.

I, personally will be cancelling my pre-order for this boxset unless this widescreen issue is resolved by the February release date. I will gladly buy the upcoming box sets, if and when they are released in full screen.
I would very much appreciate a response in writing or as an email. Thank you in advance.

[b_boult]

Remove the referrence to the UK, because they simply won't give a shit if you're not an American, and say how everyone would be more than happy if the release was put back further in order for them to go back and sort this mess out. (Just so you know I'm a Brit too, I'm not being Anti British lmao)

[John]

I swear, you guys... If this box is delayed one more freaking time... I'm gonna go bonkers.

I'm pretty damn pissed about the widescreen thing, but I actually feel bad for Funimation. I really REALLY don't think they made this choice to anger DBZ fans (as stupid of a choice as it was). I want this set, regardless.

Man, I would have loved to be in the room when the dude was like, "Let's do it in widescreen!" "What?! But the picture's gonna be cut o--" "Fuck it. Push the button."

We should all just buy the new set and replace the video track with Dragonbox footage and burn DVD-Rs and then watch those. But then the discs wouldn't have pretty pictures on them. Crap.

...is there gonna be another Funimation rebuttal soon?

[Kula]

I've removed the reference to me being in the UK, but they could figure it out just by looking at my address. If anyone else wants to be listed, just PM me. I'll be posting it tomorrow.

[m121akuma]

There was a rumor going around early in the FUNi thread saying that perhaps FUNi got fucked on the masters from Toei, or Toei only gave them the masters on the conditions that they would be widescreen. Any credence to this?

Personally, I don't know what to think. These sets are cheap. The picture quality IS better. The new audio option interests me, despite the fact that I prefer the Japanese dub. But the widescreen is upsetting...I'd need to see it in action. If the loss of footage is THAT jarring, forget it. If not, it's a wonderful deal.

[MajinVejitaXV]

There was a rumor going around early in the FUNi thread saying that perhaps FUNi got fucked on the masters from Toei, or Toei only gave them the masters on the conditions that they would be widescreen. Any credence to this?

None whatsoever. Look at every other country's releases. None have had any 'widescreen' rule imposed, even Spain who is releasing the series on DVD with their own 'remastering' job.

I love how some are trying to blame this on Toei (not naming anyone or referring to anyone in particular, this is a broad statement). Way back, lack of eyecatchers got blamed on them (until we saw the DVD releases which were poorly edited and had the last frame of the eyecatchers intact if you paused), then lack of previews got blamed on them until we found out that the television stations were the ones who actually held the audio tracks and Toei gave the video masters to FUNi since that's all they had at the time, and some even tried to blame the shitty box art on Toei even though other countries and even Pioneer had great cover art on their releases.

Face it, it's FUNi and FUNi only. So many factors make me wonder how the hell this got the green light, especially since it's more than likely that the series will have its share of horrible looking moments due to the series taking advantage of the full 4:3 aspect during fighting scenes and the like. It was a dumb decision, and methinks they'll be a bit disappointed in the profit margins for this one, but we'll see.

-Corey

[Conan the SSJ]

We should all just buy the new set and replace the video track with Dragonbox footage and burn DVD-Rs and then watch those. But then the discs wouldn't have pretty pictures on them. Crap.

Righhhht...like we're all just gonna buy every $36 Dragonbox single or spend 4 Grand on both Dragonbox sets from E-bay or something. Dude, we may be DB fans, but we're not celebrities or kings. Either buy the new set or don't, that's all I'm saying, hopefully none of you are crazy enough to go over the hill on your financial lives. If some of you guys are that pissed about the wide-screen and bitrate issues, then boycott the release for all I care. While still pissed regarding the wide-screen issue, I still plan to buy every single released set. As I've said, the pros outweigh the cons in my book, and I want the entire DBZ series before I up-chuck and croak.

[Tenken]

I think i'm just going to buy the dragonbox single dvd releases....

[desirecampbell]

It's just that we're sick and tired of Dragon Ball getting reamed all the time. It's not an anti-Funi thing, Funi is the dog's nuts of NA anime distributors. They give us good dubs, good scripts, great releases, Japanese audio, the best damn subtitles I've ever seen - for everything else. Not Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball gets fucked over in ways no other Funi property ever has. No other Funi release has had so many unfinished release versions. No other Funi release is decried so much. I mean, this pisses me off more than 4Kids - with 4Kids you know you're getting shit on, you expect it, you can prepare for it. We expect Funi to slowly get better with each product line. This is the , what? Fourth? Fifth time the series has been released? It was almost perfect. The UUEs were kind of expensive, and had lousy video but even then we were moderately happy. Now the video gets better, the dub gets a nice bonus, we get a promise that the whole series will be released this time, and the price is phenomenal - and then widescreen?!

This widescreen thing is just asinine. I mean why?! Why Funi? Why go out of your way to make it worse? Is Dragon Ball just the testing ground for any new idea? If this boxset sells well will other 4:3 anime get 'widescreen' releases too?

I just... I just can't handle it any more. Funi please, please, stop making me hate you

[Mr.Piccolo]

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He's gone, Desire... FUNi is gone.