The OFFICIAL Dragon Ball Wikipedia Project

[Eclipse]

Yeah, the saga summaries should be re written a well. And where did all these different 'sagas' come from? the Tenshinhan saga, the Baba saga, the Trunks saga. Some of them are like 5 episodes long.

FUNimation divided up those huge story arcs into little tiny bits. Wikipedia is using those 'saga naming convention' for the articles.

[Eclipse]

Anyways, it's been a while. Apparently, some one started the whole Mr. Satan thing again. Fortunately, it looks like (as of this moment) that it may be changed now, there seem to be a lot of 'Support' votes in the favor (Although knowing the admin, he may simply just go on another power trip again)

So I thought I'd do a little to-do list as to what we, the Wikipedians, need to do in order to improve the Dragon Ball articles.

1. Fix up the Saga articles. Their a mess. For one, the FUNimation saga naming convention is used, so while this saves a lot of time for lazy writers, this makes editing and linking a pain in the ass.
I think this should be changed. I'm thinking there should be simply 4 story arc pages, Saiyan - Majin Buu. The 'FUNimation sagas' can be used as headings inside the article itself. This can definitely help linking, and will reduce the time needed for editing.

The pages itself should be simple. The first paragraph detailing a bit about the story arc and such (The ones used currently are fine), then the headings, two paragraphs explaning what happened. Then possibly an episode list, if that's all right.

This is easy for the Dragon Ball Z articles. Dragon Ball story arc ones are a little bit harder, as the stories themselves aren't easy to subjugate in one saga. the GT pages are done fine, they just need fixing up.

2. Character pages - Desire has pretty much said what needs to be done. Short explanations of what the character themselves did during the story, with a link to the saga if possible. Then pun explanation, powers and such, and any trivia if necessary.

3. Link all Dragon Ball pages together. This is another big problem. The boxes at the bottom of the pages aren't working well enough. There's about 3 boxes each, one for all Dragon Ball/Z/GT movies, sagas, and episode lists, one for video games, and one for the characters.

While they're a huge improvement over the older stuff, they still need fixing. There is still a majority of pages that can only be accessed by the Dragon Ball category (Type 'Category: Dragon Ball' in the search bar). This really needs to be added in. I'm thinking a box should be made similar to what is used for the superhero-related pages (See Spider-Man to see what I mean) or what's being used for the Naruto pages.

4. Make a userbox. This will help link all our members together ^.^ I've already started making one on my userpage, but if anyone can help, it'd be much appreciated, seeing as I can't use images in a userbox yet! -_-

But yeah. This is all we need to do so far, our big plans.
So if you wanna help out, do us a huge favor and join.

Thanks!

[desirecampbell]

1. Fix up the Saga articles
I think the sagas should be summarized into a few paragraphs each, and we should be using the 'Saiyan, Freeza, Cell, Buu' sagas not the Funi 'mad more sagas, yo' sagas.

We should have episode pages as well. A lot of other articles (not just anime, but lots of TV series) on Wikipedia have them, and it works out great. You can go into greater detail than the arc summaries without bloating the articles.

I'd also like to do chapter pages as well (lay them out just like episode articles). I think they'd be awesome.

2. Character pages
Yeah, character pages are hella long. That shit need to be cut the fuck out. I'd rather have bigger sections detailing the name pun and if the character was based off Journey to the West, then another recap of the story.

3. Link all Dragon Ball pages together
Good god. There's so much to do there. There should be one template at the bottom of every page. One, not, three. I have no idea what it should even have, let alone how to write it.

And the info box (the one that says the character name, give the picture, etc) needs to be rewritten as well. We don't need all the different names there. Just the character name (whatever we use for the article title), Japanese text, and straight romanization. Put in a picture (we need better ones too, a lot are pretty bad), and that's about all it needs. Perhaps a 'first appears' note, but that should be covered in the intro paragraph or the plot recap anyway.

And for fuck sakes. Who decided it was a good idea to list the character's family?! Everyone is related to everyone else. Everyone has over a dozen 'brother-in-laws' 'granddaughter-in-law's. Fuck!

4. Make a userbox
Good plan. I'd help out, but me=stupid with this Wiki-specific markup

But yeah. This is all we need to do so far, our big plans. So if you wanna help out, do us a huge favor and join.
Indeed. Though, I'd rather you help out other articles too. Wikipedia, as a whole, needs help - but DB article in particular need more

[Eclipse]

Indeed. Though, I'd rather you help out other articles too. Wikipedia, as a whole, needs help - but DB article in particular need more

Yeah, how silly of me

We should have episode pages as well. A lot of other articles (not just anime, but lots of TV series) on Wikipedia have them, and it works out great. You can go into greater detail than the arc summaries without bloating the articles.

I'd also like to do chapter pages as well (lay them out just like episode articles). I think they'd be awesome.

We have episode lists at the moment. I think it's a nice idea, the only problem would be consistency in the articles. But other than that, it's awesome.

Good god. There's so much to do there. There should be one template at the bottom of every page. One, not, three. I have no idea what it should even have, let alone how to write it.

I can try to take care of that. It'll be a bit tough, but yeah I've got a good idea what should be in there.

[Mr.Piccolo]

1. Fix up the Saga articles
I think the sagas should be summarized into a few paragraphs each, and we should be using the 'Saiyan, Freeza, Cell, Buu' sagas not the Funi 'mad more sagas, yo' sagas.

Actually, "yo", you should do it by arcs and then break it down by sagas. Even if the original presentation didn't have all of the little sagas FUNi put together, you still have acknowledge them (kind of like what you said about Hercule). Even if you know it isn't the "correct"/original way of something, you still have to put down the other ways its seen too. If you want to act like there is no such thing as Hercule, Frieza, or even "Android 18", you'll end up having the same problems Wikipedia had from the beginning: more ignorant people changing what you spent time fixing..
-Rick

[Eclipse]

1. Fix up the Saga articles
I think the sagas should be summarized into a few paragraphs each, and we should be using the 'Saiyan, Freeza, Cell, Buu' sagas not the Funi 'mad more sagas, yo' sagas.

Actually, "yo", you should do it by arcs and then break it down by sagas. Even if the original presentation didn't have all of the little sagas FUNi put together, you still have acknowledge them (kind of like what you said about Hercule). Even if you know it isn't the "correct"/original way of something, you still have to put down the other ways its seen too. If you want to act like there is no such thing as Hercule, Frieza, or even "Android 18", you'll end up having the same problems Wikipedia had from the beginning: more ignorant people changing what you spent time fixing..
-Rick

...I earlier suggested that there should be arc pages, then the subheadings in the article could be the sagas themselves. Saves a lot of time. Like this.
Freeza Saga (Page)
Contents:
Namek Saga
Ginyu Saga
Freeza Saga

Like that =P

And the info box (the one that says the character name, give the picture, etc) needs to be rewritten as well. We don't need all the different names there. Just the character name (whatever we use for the article title), Japanese text, and straight romanization. Put in a picture (we need better ones too, a lot are pretty bad), and that's about all it needs. Perhaps a 'first appears' note, but that should be covered in the intro paragraph or the plot recap anyway.

Like Mr. Piccolo's mentioned, we've got to acknowledge the other dubs. Plus, there's like 5 or 6 names for Goku (Gokuh, Gokuoh, etc), that other people know them by.
And regarding pictures, if we have a character who changed many times during the series, would it be ok to have a picture of the character when they were best known? (For example, for Gohan, would we have a picture of him when he was a child?)