Strength of alien champion from Super episode 2?

[ChahikoDBZ]

Probably not stronger than an average Saiyan but I guess it's hard to decide where he was at in power.

[Doctor.]

Fighters existed that surpassed Freeza, prior to Beerus knowing about The Original Super Saiyan & Saiyan God, not to mention Majin Buu.

And how much sense would it make for Beerus to make a big fuss out of Freeza being defeated when he just killed a being stronger than him a few minutes ago? lol.

[pacz360]

Impossible to tell considering he was going against beerus,at the very least maybe saiyan saga level.

[Hugo Boss]

I think he was at Ginyu Force level. He seems to be in a totally different league from the other monsters from his race and had a transformation on top of that. He got also a decent fighting style, too bad he went against Beerus.

[supercat]

I think he was at Ginyu Force level. He seems to be in a totally different league from the other monsters from his race and had a transformation on top of that. He got also a decent fighting style, too bad he went against Beerus.

I feel like Beerus intentionally fluctuates his own power to refrain from killing his opponents too hastily. It also seems like he willingly allows them to unleash the full extent of their power, in hopes of testing them, and/or smugly giving them a false sense of victory. These deceitful practices were vaguely exposed during his fight against Goku (twice) and the other Z-Fighters.

Back on topic, we likely won't find out how powerful that alien was, but being in the same realm of power as the Ginyu Force means that at one point, he was among the strongest fighters in the universe.

[h0kuten]

Android don't have power levels and can't be sensed.

Debunking Beerus sensing anyone's power level and fluctuating his own.

The feats are there to show us who is superior to who.

[Herms]

For the record, this alien's listed in the credits (and episode closed captioning) simply as "Leader", so apparently he's the leader of that tribe of aliens, probably by virtue of him being the strongest.

I agree. I wouldn't even put him at Nappa level.

Saiyans are meant to be far above average and Nappa was an elite among them.

I'd guess anywhere from saibamen level to possibly Nappa level if I'm being generous.

Yeah, I don't quite understand why people are reaching for Zarbon/Ginyu/Freeza, since those are rather specific choices yet we hardly have anything to go off of.

[fadeddreams5]

Yeah, I don't quite understand why people are reaching for Zarbon/Ginyu/Freeza, since those are rather specific choices yet we hardly have anything to go off of.

Because... the alien looked cool.

[Draconic]

For the record, this alien's listed in the credits (and episode closed captioning) simply as "Leader", so apparently he's the leader of that tribe of aliens, probably by virtue of him being the strongest.

I agree. I wouldn't even put him at Nappa level.

Saiyans are meant to be far above average and Nappa was an elite among them.

I'd guess anywhere from saibamen level to possibly Nappa level if I'm being generous.

Yeah, I don't quite understand why people are reaching for Zarbon/Ginyu/Freeza, since those are rather specific choices yet we hardly have anything to go off of.

I chose Zarbon because that was the first character to transform at will to gain a power-up, just like the alien thing Beerus beat.

[Galan007]

This portion of the series takes place wayyyy after Freeza. Anything could really happen.

True. After all, Abo and Kado were each ranked in the same class as the Ginyu Force back in the day, yet by the time of Yo! they'd each become > 1st form Freeza. /shrug

[h0kuten]

Fighters existed that surpassed Freeza, prior to Beerus knowing about The Original Super Saiyan & Saiyan God, not to mention Majin Buu.

And how much sense would it make for Beerus to make a big fuss out of Freeza being defeated when he just killed a being stronger than him a few minutes ago? lol.

Beerus could have been surprised a 'Saiyan' killed Frieza. Their top fighters couldn't even crack 20,000.

[Doctor.]

Fighters existed that surpassed Freeza, prior to Beerus knowing about The Original Super Saiyan & Saiyan God, not to mention Majin Buu.

And how much sense would it make for Beerus to make a big fuss out of Freeza being defeated when he just killed a being stronger than him a few minutes ago? lol.

Beerus could have been surprised a 'Saiyan' killed Freeza. Their top fighters couldn't even crack 20,000.

Beerus clearly expresses surprise at Freeza being defeated, not by whom. He falls over in his bath and rises up saying "Freeza was defeated?!", not "Freeza was defeated by a Saiyan?!".

[supercat]

Beerus only tries to delve deeper into the specifics of who was responsible for the tyrant's defeat after getting over his initial shock.

[ParkerAL]

Okay, I'll bite. Why would anyone want this random alien to be stronger than Freeza? Doesn't Dragon Ball already have enough problems with absurd power inflation?

[Polyphase Avatron]

Okay, I'll bite. Why would anyone want this random alien to be stronger than Freeza? Doesn't Dragon Ball already have enough problems with absurd power inflation?

I think it's well established that there were quite a few beings on Freeza's level or higher spread throughout the universe already. Freeza was the ruler of only one out of 4 galaxies after all. Yakon is an example of an alien who was likely stronger than him (required SSJ2 to defeat) and there were likely several others. Although you could probably count them all on 2 hands (not including the various gods and demons of course).

[Doctor.]

I don't think Yakon is stronger and even if he was, you always have the excuse that he had a lot of hidden power released by Babidi so there's no big deal. Some random alien in an underdeveloped planet being stronger than Freeza is quite stupid, it'd be like someone on Earth besides the Dragon Team being randomly stronger than Freeza, too.

[Lord Beerus]

I assume he had a decent high power level. Maybe around ssj2 Goku of Gohan? I know beerus was toying with him but still he must have had some sort of power.

Nah. I'd say the alien had Vegeta Saiyan arc strength, at his maximum.

[Galan007]

Yakon is an example of an alien who was likely stronger than him (required SSJ2 to defeat) and there were likely several others.

It didn't require SSJ2-level 'power' to defeat Yakon--that was just the amount of light energy Goku had to generate in order to overload him. Prior to that, base Goku was casually dodging everything Yakon threw his way.

Also, according to V-Jump 1 kili=50,000BP:

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Yakon's BP registered at 800 kili:

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Therefore, his BP was 40,000,000.

[Alex9196]

How do you want to put that guy on a scale? The only thing that was seen that indicates his power was that he was humilitaed by Beerus. Wow, now I am much smarter than before. So he is probably in a range from 100 to 100.000.000.000.
or whatever. You cant measure his power just on that fight alone.

[Polyphase Avatron]

The Vjump kili measurement was based on the fact that SSJ1 Goku had 3,000 kilis and the Daizenshuu gave him a PL of 150,000,000 on Namek. Accepting that 1 kili = 50,000 PL means that you believe that SSJ1 Goku in the Buu Arc was no stronger than SSJ1 Goku on Namek. Personally I think a kili is a lot more than that.